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re: Is Mark Ingram highly regarded nationwide?

Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:30 am to
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:30 am to
With all due respect, Tebow deserved his.
Posted by BamaInHsv
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
17889 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 10:38 am to
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I think they screwed the prestige of the award by giving it to Soph with one good season.


I guess you missed his entire 2008 season. Damn you post some dumb shite.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:01 am to
Our offensive line was a surprise this year. There is no doubt about that. But we still had moments where our running backs had to do this:

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Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5519 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:06 am to
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Or they do not like you questioning their players.


Maybe because there really isn't anything to question is there? What's the problem with him? What does he lack? What did he not prove? What do these other players do better than he does? I'm totally fricking confused. He fricking dominated every defense he ran against this year except AU when he was a little banged up. UF, Texas, Va Tech, Ole Miss, LSU... I just don't get any slight on his game. I didn't see one.

This is fricking silly and smells of jealousy.
Posted by Number 3 is my Hero
Member since Nov 2009
4689 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:07 am to
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UPT


Do Bama fans read one thing and then see it as something completely different? Almost every single Bama fan has turned the OP's original intent of the thread into him saying Ingram would not start for any other team in country.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48981 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:11 am to
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UPT


Who are you and why does your butt hurt?

Whether he sucks or not was not the question. He obviously doesn't suck. I just found it odd that the Heisman winner would probably not start at a number of schools. That's all. Chill out you dumb motherfricker.
Posted by Bamapossum
Alabama
Member since Jan 2006
1105 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:18 am to
Yes, Mark Ingram is very highly regarded nationwide. I believe he could and would start at any team in the country. As would Trent Richardson.

They are both very explosive backs who run hard behind their pads and require excellent tackling to bring down. They are both very strong, have low centers of gravity, possess excellent vision, and have excellent speed.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5519 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:19 am to
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sorantable


Good melt. That was pretty easy.

So answer at least one of my questions and will drag my hurting butt out of your genius thread.

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Chill out you dumb motherfricker.


This is good stuff. Who needs to chill out?
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18291 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:23 am to
You have asked two (2) different questions in a lame attempt to flame Alabama and it's fans and players.

The first question is in the header.... "Is Mark Ingram highly regarded nationwide?" Answer: Yes. I'm pretty sure that a sophomore who ran all over most teams in the SEC, and every team he played, (expect maybe Auburn, whose whole gameplan was to shut him down), won the heisman, and was a big part in winning the BCS national championship for his team would be very "highly regarded".

The second question was in the body of the message .... "Are there teams in the country that Mark Ingram wouldn't start for?" Answer: Possibly. Teams across the country do not have the same game plan. But I bet you my bottom dollar that if Mark wanted to transfer to any team in the nation, they would be wetting all over themselves and would find a way to get him in the game.

Keep flaming Ole Miss. Sorry your team was picked to win the west in the SEC and maybe the SEC championship itself this year and Bama won instead. Sorry your team failed to live up to the pre-season hype and ratings, and dropped to the bottom of the top 25; and Bama won it all on the field.

Keep flaming rivals, but that will not change that Mark Ingram won the heisman and Alabama is the 2009 BCS National Champions.
Posted by NOLATide
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2007
2576 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:45 am to
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i don't think so. that Bama o-line was sick. he is indeed a very good player. but I don't think he would start at any school.
Wait... before the season this was a rebuilding OL. LSU fans kept telling us that they would suck. So which is it, the OL was the best OL ever or they were weak? Can't be both. But it could be that the OL was good, and so were the RB's. However that would require some Bama haters to give credence to our Heisman winner. I don't see that happeneing.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48981 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:47 am to
All that just for me?
Posted by Number 3 is my Hero
Member since Nov 2009
4689 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 11:50 am to
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NOLATide


Yes lets take what some LSU fans said, if you look back at post from then you can see others saying if the line gel's Bama should contend for national title. Hell even Bama fans said the same thing and over the course of the season the OLine did exactly that and the season because special for Bama fans.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40909 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:01 pm to
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Look at past few Heisman winners. Palmer, Bush, Tebow, Leinart, and Bradford would probably be a star anywhere.


Making this argument is where your thread and logic fail.

Obviously, Mark Ingram would not be a choice back for a team like Oregon. They prefer the smaller shiftier type of back such as James. However any pro-style offense would probably kill to have a runner like Ingram in their backfield because he fits that style very well.

However now that we have pointed out the obvious, all of the previous players would not be a star everywhere either.

Palmer - see Georgia Tech, not an option type QB
Bush - see Alabama, not a power every-down runner
Tebow - see Texas Tech, not an every-down passer
Leinart - see Palmer same QB
Bradford - see Florida or Palmer's description

Any player's success is due to their abilities personally and a system in which they can thrive in. So even if you have Peyton Manning if you put him in Georgia Tech's triple option scheme, I doubt he wins the Heisman because he would not throw enough. Granted Georgia Tech would never recruit him there, but that is not in the logic of the OP's question.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48981 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:03 pm to
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UltimaParadox


Best reply of the day. You proved your point without being a crybaby or a douche. Well played, sir.
Posted by Number 3 is my Hero
Member since Nov 2009
4689 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:05 pm to
Damnit... I said the same thing I just did not include the other previous heisman winners.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40909 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:06 pm to
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You proved your point without being a crybaby or a douche. Well played, sir.


True, but it does lack the sort of entertainment value that I expect from most posters on this board

Of course that is from fans from every team
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18291 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:07 pm to
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All that just for me?


Good comeback.

You asked two (2) questions and I'm just answering with the truth.

And I am sorry for Ole Miss's poor season this year. Sportscasters hyped you up and Ole Miss did what Ole Miss does best, bombs.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48981 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:12 pm to
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And I am sorry for Ole Miss's poor season this year. Sportscasters hyped you up and Ole Miss did what Ole Miss does best, bombs.


We did go 9-4 so I wouldn't call it poor or a bomb but you're right. We didn't meet expectations this year.
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5836 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 12:42 pm to
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Is Mark Ingram highly regarded nationwide?


Living in Tejas, my opinion is that only those that follow the SEC over here even know who Ingram is.

Probably the same for other states except maybe those in Meeeechegan that followed him in H.S.

quote:

Are there teams in the country that Mark Ingram wouldn't start for?


There are at least 4 P10 teams, USuCk, Stanford, OSU, & UO that he wouldn't start for.

He wouldn't start ahead of Noel Devine @ WVU.
He wouldn't start ahead of Demarco Murray @ ZeroU.

There are probably other examples as well.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48981 posts
Posted on 1/18/10 at 1:08 pm to
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There are at least 4 P10 teams, USuCk, Stanford, OSU, & UO that he wouldn't start for.

He wouldn't start ahead of Noel Devine @ WVU.
He wouldn't start ahead of Demarco Murray @ ZeroU.

There are probably other examples as well.


Agreed.
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