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Mulkey Man
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re: Is Jimbo on the Hot Seat?
I respect Hugh, he’s one of the better Aggie posters, but he’s wrong on this one. A&M enjoyed almost full health and, as shown below, no opt outs. UNC was a shell of itself after its stars on both sides opted out.
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Hugh McElroy
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That linked preview is inaccurate, or was published before we lost guys. And we certainly were not at full health. We had already lost 2 starting WRs and a starting OLmen.


armytide373
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do your own googling.


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Texas A&M roster update

Injury

Texas A&M might have some issues in the secondary. Defensive back Devin Morris tweeted out a message that said he would miss the bowl game with a concussion. In addition, cornerback Myles Jones (foot) did not play in Texas A&M’s regular season finale and is listed as questionable.

Senior receiver Cam Bradley appears to be a go for the Aggies. He suffered a knee injury before the season and this will be his first game of 2020-21.

Opt-out

Texas A&M had a few players opt out prior to the start of the season, but there has been no indication any Aggies that went through the full season will skip this game. Jimbo Fisher confirmed as much on Friday.

North Carolina roster update

Injury


Among the players questionable for this game include defensive backs Storm Duck (lower body) and Obi Egbuna (undisclosed). In addition, running back D.J. Jones will be out with a foot injury, as the Tar Heels are searching for backfield depth for this game. Wide receiver Beau Corrales.

Opt-out

North Carolina will be without multiple high-level players with three on offense and one on defense. Running backs Michael Carter and Javonte Williams decided against playing in this game along with wide receiver Dyami Brown and linebacker Chazz Surratt.

2021 Orange Bowl Injury Update- DRAFT KINGS

between injuries and opt-outs, an already less talented UNC team looked to be facing an uphill battle. A year later, when adversity struck some key Aggie players, A&M ducks Wake Forest.


armytide373
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That linked preview is inaccurate, or was published before we lost guys.

It is from a sports betting site; it is likely as close to accurate as you'll see for CFB who don't have to disclose injuries

It was published less than 4 hrs before kickoff



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SidewalkTiger
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That linked preview is inaccurate, or was published before we lost guys. And we certainly were not at full health. We had already lost 2 starting WRs and a starting OLmen.


So list the "best players" who missed the game then.




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That linked preview is inaccurate, or was published before we lost guys. And we certainly were not at full health. We had already lost 2 starting WRs and a starting OLmen.


UNC didn't have:

RB 1 (also WR 4)
RB 2 (also WR 5)
RB 4
WR 1
leading tackler

Aggie didn't have:

backup Defensive backs
maybe an offensive lineman that got hurt earlier in the year

I can't which WR they didn't have based on the box score because their quarterback was horrible and often missed open receivers
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Mulkey Man
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That linked preview is inaccurate, or was published before we lost guys. And we certainly were not at full health. We had already lost 2 starting WRs and a starting OLmen.


I just read several previews and post-gamers, not a single one mentions any other injuries or opt outs on the A&M side, other than the minor guys out (posted above). I had forgotten just how hamstrung UNC was, it’s actually amazing that Carolina was leading in the fourth quarter.


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Hugh McElroy
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Aggie didn't have:
backup Defensive backs



Or two starting WRs or a starting OL.


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Or two starting WRs or a starting OL.


you had 7 of your 8 top recieving targets, only missing WR4 who had 14 total catches all season.


Mulkey Man
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Or two starting WRs or a starting OL


2020 Aggies stats

Box score

Leading wideouts were Ainias Smith and Chase Lane. Both played.


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Hugh McElroy
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you had 7 of your 8 top recieving targets, only missing WR4 who had 14 total catches all season.


That's not true. Starting WR Caleb Chapman was out, starting corner Myles Jones was out, Starting LBer Aaron Hansford was out, starting DE Micheal Clemmons was out, and our starting center went down early in the year.

I thought starting WR Chase Lane was also out, but that it is a mistake.

LINK

Missing our best LBer, our best WR (if Smith is counted as a RB), and a starting DE and starting corner counts as missing "several of our best players," as I said.
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Mulkey Man
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That is remarkably healthy for a bowl game. Absolutely no comparison to what UNC was missing.


Hugh McElroy
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They were missing 3 starters, we were missing 5. Call it 4 if you don't want to count the loss of our center early in the year.
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lsuson
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No. They celebrate mediocrity


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SidewalkTiger
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They were missing 3 starters, we were missing 5. Call it 4 if you don't want to count the loss of our center early in the year.


Clemons only started 5 games all year and Chapman only started 2.

You're really overblowing the loss of Chapman in particular, not sure why.




armytide373
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Now you're just being disingenuous.

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Starting WR Caleb Chapman was out
Played in three games, making two starts before suffering a season-ending leg injury late in the win over Florida

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Myles Jones
Only played in 8 games in 2020 and was mentioned in the other report

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Starting LBer Aaron Hansford
was unavailable at gametime, so that one is genuine

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DE Micheal Clemmons
Only played 5 games and had been out for 2 mos. with injuries






Hugh McElroy
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However many games they had missed, it is nonetheless true that we were missing more starters than were they.


ColoradoAg
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He isn’t on the hot seat - they don’t care about anything more than a “good year” at A&M. Always been that way. We gave Sumlin WAY too long, and will do the same with Fisher as well


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Hugh McElroy
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You're really overblowing the loss of Chapman in particular,


If you knew anything about A&M's team that year, you'd know. Chapman was our only real deep threat, and we would not have beaten Florida without him.

Here's the play he was injured:

LINK
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SidewalkTiger
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However many games they had missed, it is nonetheless true that we were missing more starters than were they.





If we're saying you missing a guy who only made 2 starts and had 14 receptions is the same as them missing a guy who started every game and had 54 receptions.

You're including people who had been out the majority of the year while North Carolina's tally is only for starters who missed this particular game.


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