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Is it time for the NFL to start their own minor league?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:25 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:25 am
Maybe the NFL needs to stop using the college system as a free farm league, and players shouldn't be locked into attending college first.
Elite players could be drafted into the minor leagues straight out of high school if they choose and earn endorsements, a paycheck, and a potential spot in the big leagues. The NFL has been trying to expand overseas, so maybe this could be setup similar to the G League.
Other players could go to college if they choose, knowing that they wouldn't otherwise be compensated but could obtain a full scholarship.
This might bring down the overall talent level of college football, but wouldn't the ability to choose generally make everyone (including fans) happier?
Elite players could be drafted into the minor leagues straight out of high school if they choose and earn endorsements, a paycheck, and a potential spot in the big leagues. The NFL has been trying to expand overseas, so maybe this could be setup similar to the G League.
Other players could go to college if they choose, knowing that they wouldn't otherwise be compensated but could obtain a full scholarship.
This might bring down the overall talent level of college football, but wouldn't the ability to choose generally make everyone (including fans) happier?
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:27 am to paperwasp
I'd like to see the CBB rule where it's either pro or 3 years college if that's the case.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:27 am to paperwasp
Honestly what are you even posting on a college football forum for what you just proposed would destroy college football.
Also I think it's already been tried it was called the XFL or NFL Europe both failed
Also I think it's already been tried it was called the XFL or NFL Europe both failed
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:27 am to paperwasp
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farm league
Not 100% sure but I bet you aren’t supposed to use this term anymore ;)
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:29 am to paperwasp
Until there are major changes with NCAA athletics it would make no sense to do so.
Why invest the capital in something like that when you already have a system that works well in NCAA FB?
Why invest the capital in something like that when you already have a system that works well in NCAA FB?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:30 am to Dennis4LSU
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Honestly what are you even posting on a college football forum for what you just proposed would destroy college football
How so?
I would think there are plenty of talented players to fill a college roster, even if they're not all five-stars.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:31 am to Murph4HOF
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Why invest the capital in something like that when you already have a system that works well in NCAA FB?
No reason to.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:33 am to paperwasp
You do know most of those 5 stars without proper development would fail in the NFL. even if you have a minor league okay they bomb out there then they have no education pretty much broke and nothing at all to fall back on later, and then don't make the NFL and can't play college football.
Not to mention like I said earlier a minor league system in football will fail without TV and nobody really tuned in to watch that stuff or goes to those games.
Not to mention like I said earlier a minor league system in football will fail without TV and nobody really tuned in to watch that stuff or goes to those games.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:34 am to paperwasp
They should have started one a long time ago. They've been able to coast by on free development.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:37 am to Dennis4LSU
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You do know most of those 5 stars without proper development would fail in the NFL
Yes, but the minor league system would be intended for development.
If they want to go there and risk bombing out, isn't that a decision that they could make on their own?
What I'm saying is take some of this commercialism back out of college football, which is sort of the way it was for the greater part of the first century or so of the sport.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:37 am to Dennis4LSU
quote:People go to minor league baseball, hockey, 2nd/3rd division soccer, etc. all over the country. People would go to minor league football games. You won't have 60k+ in the stands, but you shouldn't expect that unless your expectations are fricked up.
Not to mention like I said earlier a minor league system in football will fail without TV and nobody really tuned in to watch that stuff or goes to those games.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:40 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:44 am to pvilleguru
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People would go to minor league football games
Exactly, and minor sports leagues like baseball Double-A and basketball G League are not really about fans, they're about development for the associated pro leagues.
Which maybe college should not be.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:45 am to pvilleguru
This pandemic will change the collegiate model forever.
You can't expect football and basketball to support every other collegiate sport and experience like it has for the last 30 years. The model wasn't designed for that. And the players that are being used to fund this model is not sustainable. They built this on the backs of fans and players, but the facilites arms race and coaching salaries got way out of hand. Changes are coming and I have no idea what that will look like.
The owners of professional sports don't want to add costs when the players associations are demanding more and more.
You can't expect football and basketball to support every other collegiate sport and experience like it has for the last 30 years. The model wasn't designed for that. And the players that are being used to fund this model is not sustainable. They built this on the backs of fans and players, but the facilites arms race and coaching salaries got way out of hand. Changes are coming and I have no idea what that will look like.
The owners of professional sports don't want to add costs when the players associations are demanding more and more.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:46 am to nicholastiger
quote:100%. Even assistant coaches these days are making >$1M, and people are upset that the players want a slice of that?
They built this on the backs of fans and players, but the facilites arms race and coaching salaries got way out of hand.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:48 am to pvilleguru
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They should have started one a long time ago. They've been able to coast by on free development.
Its a win for everyone really.
The NFL gets free development, the schools get revenue, and the players get education and other benefits that they wouldn't have had access to otherwise.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:51 am to nicholastiger
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They built this on the backs of fans and players, but the facilites arms race and coaching salaries got way out of hand.
I don’t disagree with this, but if you have someone in charge of a 50+ million dollar profit business, they should probably make a competitive salary.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:52 am to SidewalkTiger
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the players get education and other benefits that they wouldn't have had access to otherwise
But it's clear that some of the players don't see that as being enough.
Couldn't those players have a choice to skip college and earn immediately based on their merits?
And others who see it as enough go to college and get that education?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:52 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Do they really, though? Most of the good players are shuffled through the easiest classes just so they can stay eligible and given all the help in the world just so that they can keep a passing grade. Most of the other players would still be going to college on athletic scholarships anyway since they wouldn't be good enough for the NFL development league.
and the players get education
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:56 am to paperwasp
The image and likeness rules will render this discussion obsolete. Elite players are going to make basically as much in college as they will in a proposed minor league.
Think you’ll actually see more guys stay for four years. A college star staring at a third round draft grade will probably might make more staying for his senior year than he will on a third round deal.
If there’s one thing colleges have that no minor league ever will it’s a rabid fan base guaranteeing exposure and superstardom if you perform
Think you’ll actually see more guys stay for four years. A college star staring at a third round draft grade will probably might make more staying for his senior year than he will on a third round deal.
If there’s one thing colleges have that no minor league ever will it’s a rabid fan base guaranteeing exposure and superstardom if you perform
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:57 am
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:05 am to paperwasp
an NFL minor league would be a net benefit to almost no one.
Colleges would suffer, obviously, as this diminishes the impact of the college game.
The NFL would suffer, as this system would be additional cost without a tangible benefit.
The vast majority of the players would suffer, as they would, following the minor league model, be paid very poorly, as a minor league pay scales would be negotiated between the NFLPA and the NFL, neither of which have any self interest. have no education, and be required to make their life choice before they can realistically understand or know what is best for them.
The minor league system is why baseball players are the dumbest, most superstitious athletes. they aren't being educated at all.
I dont know how many times it needs to be said, but most college athletes DO NOT GO PRO, and benefit immensely from the chance to get a college degree tuition free.
Colleges would suffer, obviously, as this diminishes the impact of the college game.
The NFL would suffer, as this system would be additional cost without a tangible benefit.
The vast majority of the players would suffer, as they would, following the minor league model, be paid very poorly, as a minor league pay scales would be negotiated between the NFLPA and the NFL, neither of which have any self interest. have no education, and be required to make their life choice before they can realistically understand or know what is best for them.
The minor league system is why baseball players are the dumbest, most superstitious athletes. they aren't being educated at all.
I dont know how many times it needs to be said, but most college athletes DO NOT GO PRO, and benefit immensely from the chance to get a college degree tuition free.
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