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re: Is it reasonable to expect Tennessee football to turn around?

Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:00 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:00 am to
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If you're too ignorant to understand the difference, let alone that it isn't the same comment, then it's pointless to try to explain it to you.


I mean, really? All of us are the ignorant ones for this?

Dude, stop.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:00 am to
Leadbetter is calling others ignorant ITT
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:01 am to
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SummerOfGeorge


Nobody has debated that Tennessee had a good run from 1997-2007. Nobody.

Nobody can reasonably contend, though, that they've been one of the better SEC teams since then, or that they've been better than 5th in the SEC since integration. You keep trying to spin it, but you can't do it.

This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:02 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:01 am to
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then it's pointless to try to explain it to you.


AKA I'm not sure how to spin out of this one anymore than I already have
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:03 am to
Tennessee is in the 3rd tier of the Big 6 since 1970

1st - Alabama
2nd - Florida/LSU
3rd - Georgia/Tennessee/Auburn

Not really sure why this is such a debate

Also, the notion I'm spinning for Tennessee is also laughable. I review things, come to a conclusion and present it. Not everyone has an angle and cherry picks things to try and make it look good.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:05 am
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:04 am to
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Oh, but I also didn't say that UT has never been one of the best SEC teams. I said they haven't been since the SEC teams integrated.




Again, UT integrated in 1967, so you need to start the numbers there, frickboi.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:04 am to
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SummerOfGeorge


Your comment...

"And you said 25 was too small a sample size"

I asked for a link to when I said that, and you still can't provide me for that link. Not something that you think means the same thing, but that very comment. Go ahead.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:06 am to
quote:


Nobody can reasonably contend, though, that they've been one of the better SEC teams since then, or that they've been better than 5th in the SEC since integration.


No one said that, I want exact quotes and links to them
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:07 am to
This is just like those ridiculous Jalen Hurts debates when a handful of us would say Hurts has to improve, but many QBs make a jump Year 1 to Year 2 and so well hold judgment until that determination can be made.

We were then immediately lumped into some category of blind Bammers who can't see the truth and treat Saban like a god.

You are like a bad politician. Everyone doesn't fall into a predetermined bucket Huddie. We're not all out to be all in one way or another.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:09 am to
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Not something that you think means the same thing,


I don't think it means the same thing, I have a grasp of both the English language, semantics and sampling techniques and understand what phrases are linked and are synonymous with eachother.

I never said you said that verbatim. Ever.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:09 am to
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Again, UT integrated in 1967, so you need to start the numbers there, frickboi.


I have said over and over that it's a line of demarcation when ALL SEC teams were integrated.

BUT, since you insist: Here's a photo of the 1967 UT roster....

Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:09 am to
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I don't think it means the same thing, I have a grasp of both the English language, semantics and sampling techniques and understand what phrases are linked and are synnomous with eachother.

I never said you said that verbatim. Ever.


snicker. Waffling.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:10 am to
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snicker. Waffling.


Congrats on.....something I guess
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:11 am to
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Tennessee is in the 3rd tier of the Big 6 since 1970

1st - Alabama
2nd - Florida/LSU
3rd - Georgia/Tennessee/Auburn


I think we're the only team, besides Auburn, that had to play Alabama every year during that time period as well.

It does affect the winning percentages, at least slightly.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:14 am to
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I think we're the only team, besides Auburn, that had to play Alabama every year during that time period as well.


I don't have time or effort to do it, but I wonder what the "non-Alabama" SEC % is for those 5 teams since 1970.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:16 am to
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I don't have time or effort to do it, but I wonder what the "non-Alabama" SEC % is for those 5 teams since 1970.



I do too. I'd like to see Georgia's record vs Bama during that time period as well.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43598 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:22 am to
We're 6-10 since 1972. We didn't play in 70 or 71.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12836 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:23 am to
Lester McClain (b. 17 September 1949[1]) is a former American football wide receiver and the first African American to play at the University of Tennessee.[2][3] He joined the Volunteers in 1967
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:28 am to
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Lester McClain (b. 17 September 1949[1]) is a former American football wide receiver and the first African American to play at the University of Tennessee.[2][3] He joined the Volunteers in 1967


gee. And they didn't even allow him to be in the team photo. That is damn sad. I'll just guess that there were white and black water fountains in the locker room.



Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12836 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:32 am to
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I have said over and over that it's a line of demarcation when ALL SEC teams were integrated.




Well my line of demarcation is 1967 when the SEC began to be integrated. It's also an even 50 years. Therefore, your random year and the numbers that follow it mean nothing.
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