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re: Is it reasonable to expect Tennessee football to turn around?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:39 am to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:39 am to BigOrangeBri
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You can keep throwing out your arbitrary dates so you can cherry pick the numbers and forget 80 years of football prior. We will keep not giving a shite about your meaningless posts
Measure the short term by the last 10 years, or measure the more telling sample of the era since all SEC teams were integrated. By either measure, UT is mediocre, at best.
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:39 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Where does UT rank in winning pct since all teams were integrated in 1970?
This is the guy who was complaining about cherry picking earlier
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
"But but but muh 1970"
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:40 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Measure the short term by the last 10 years, or measure the more telling sample of the era since all SEC teams were integrated
Yea, I don't agree to the notion that those are the only 2 options in defining an era.
The last 25 years/since SEC expansion/since the SECCG started (which is all 1992-2016, making it an even more reasonable starting point) is a perfectly acceptable and rational time frame to asses.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:42 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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but for Kentucky and Vanderbilt, the worst program in the SEC the last 10 years
You can't use 10 years, that is too small a sample size
Do you even understand how hypocritical you are being atm.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:42 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Why are you arguing SEC rank? We're comparing Georgia and Tennessee. Nobody is arguing Tennessee has had a better last 50 years than Florida, Alabama or LSU.
Because the SEC winning pct rank shows UGA to be 2nd behind Alabama and UT 5th. That is a very significant statistic when measuring success of a team and it isn't "almost dead even".
In the longterm, since SEC teams integrated, UGA is better. In the short term, the last 10 years, UGA is better.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:43 am to rockiee
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You can't use 10 years, that is too small a sample size
25 years being too small a sample size is a rational argument when discussing Western Civilization. Not so much when discussing a sport that has been in existence for roughly 100 years.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:44 am to rockiee
He's a mindless boob. Even fellow bama fans think he's a dumbass
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:44 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Because the SEC winning pct rank shows UGA to be 2nd behind Alabama and UT 5th
And yet, even or behind in most other major categories. Georgia didn't have to play Alabama every year in the 1970's or 2000's. Tennessee did. That in an of itself cost Tennessee at least 4-5 games. Which is why using SEC Winning % over a period of time like that in which SEC schedules were haphazard and not even is fine in a large group of stats, but stupid to pull out and use as the end all be all.
Hell, I guess UGA is > Florida and LSU since 1970?
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:45 am to Huddie Leadbetter
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
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25 years being too small a sample size is a rational argument when discussing Western Civilization. Not so much when discussing a sport that has been in existence for roughly 100 years.
But you want to measure since 1992 since it includes UT's best years (1997-2007) since the 1940's or whenever, but yet you don't want to measure the last 10 years, or the more statistically viable 47 years, and 1970 is so very important because it's a clear line of demarcation, since it was a year that all SEC teams were integrated. In fact, that time is probably the important line of demarcation in the history of the conference.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Not so much when discussing a sport that has been in existence for roughly 100 years.
It was just funny to see him bash your 25 year span then talk about how bad Tenn. has been over the last 10 years. I'm not sure he even understands what he just did there.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:47 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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In the longterm, since SEC teams integrated, UGA is better. In the short term, the last 10 years, UGA is better.
VOLS integrated in 1967, so you need to start your cherry picking there.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:47 am to rockiee
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It was just funny to see him bash your 25 year span then talk about how bad Tenn. has been over the last 10 years. I'm not sure he even understands what he just did there.
And then exclude what he refers to as Tennessee's best era
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:48 am to rockiee
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It was just funny to see him bash your 25 year span then talk about how bad Tenn. has been over the last 10 years. I'm not sure he even understands what he just did there.
He doesn't lol
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:48 am to Vols&Shaft83
Can we all just agree that UT is missing the coach that can take them to the promise land. Facilities are top notch, fan base is huge but they need a legendary coach and an improved athletic department (which may be the case now).
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:48 am to rockiee
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It was just funny to see him bash your 25 year span then talk about how bad Tenn. has been over the last 10 years. I'm not sure he even understands what he just did there.
You don't even get the point, do you? He is ignoring the short term of 10 years, which is often used in measuring statistics, and he's ignoring the more important longer term of the 47 years since integration of SEC teams.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:49 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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But you want to measure since 1992 since it includes UT's best years (1997-2007) since the 1940's or whenever, but yet you don't want to measure the last 10 years
I don't "want" or "not want" to do anything. Statistical eras are generally selected based on :
(a) watershed moments (SEC going to 12 teams, divisions, SECCG, etc)
(b) even periods of time (10, 25, 50, 100 years)
We've done the last 25 and the last 50 (roughly). And you said 25 was too small a sample size, then argued we should use a sample size less than half of the too small a sample size.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:49 am to craigbiggio
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And then exclude what he refers to as Tennessee's best era
No no no. Tennessee's best era was way the hell back before integration. Those hillbillies were decent when every team was playing white boys.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:50 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Those hillbillies were decent when every team was playing white boys.
what's the problem then?
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