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re: Is Harold Perkins playing out of position again?

Posted on 7/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
It will all work out and the aggies will take the loss this year.
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5650 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 1:36 pm to
Perkins was great in 2022, but then teams started to scheme for him. He had 3 sacks against Arkansas and did not have another sack until the bowl game against Purdue.

Perkins is pretty good in coverage and has two interceptions in his career.

As others point out, he does not have the size you would need for a DE. His size is more similar to a safety.

If you don't knoww whwat the STAR role is, it is meant to be a versatile position. Problem most similalr to a safety in the box.

Here is what Blake Baker had to say:

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"I just think the STAR is so versatile," Baker said. "And quite frankly, we sat down at the end of the year, and I asked, 'Where are you most comfortable?' And he said the STAR."

"He’s got that capability to still allow us to be flexible from a coverage standpoint, but I do think that he’s a really, really good space player. I think with that position, you’re able to do a lot of different things with him."

"It will also keep offenses not necessarily knowing where he’s going to line up every single snap. Whether it be pressure, coverage, or him being on the line of scrimmage, we're able to do many different things."

"That’s kind of like the little secret sauce in this defense. The more position flexibility that guy gives you, the more versatile we can be on defense."


By the way, a player can still blitz from the LB/DB position.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15388 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 1:39 pm to
Thanks, Danny. We can always count on you to be a wealth of knowledge.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 1:44 pm to
If you know me so well... then you should just call.

Then again, if you actually know me... then you would have already called.

But the aggies will take that loss to LSU this year slick.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
10713 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:00 pm to
They want him to be the honey badger and blitz… but opposing teams will just make him cover the slot if possible.

Will be interesting chess match. To be honest I doubt A&M is the team to make him play in coverage. They are going to be a run first team and will just right straight at him to negate his speed.

I’m not trolling, just talking ball. So we’ll see how it shakes out.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:28 pm to
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Okay, you're almost there. Now, just take the next step in the logical chain. If an OC knows Perk is going to cover a TE, then he's going to give him a a TE to cover* and remove him from the pass rush. That's effectively blocking him with a TE.

Okay? Then LSU can send any number of other talented EDGE players after the quarterback, or any of the three line backers on the roster that have sub 4.5 speed. Meanwhile, Perk will be in space to make a play on a ball carrier.
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*Btw, for those crowing about his coverage stats, I'm sure it has nothing to do with covering an in-line TE.

He was covering slot receivers out of the nickel spot, but good try.
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He ain't walking out in the slot covering the Bowers of the world.
If you can find me any player in America (much less a linebacker) who can consistently cover a top 3 tight end in the NFL, I will personally pay their NIL to get them at LSU.

There are no "Brock Bowers' of the world" in college football this year.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:31 pm to
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They want him to be the honey badger and blitz… but opposing teams will just make him cover the slot if possible.
The star position is a little different than pure nickel corner (which he did play some of the last couple years).

Still, I am fine with him in coverage. It also allows Baker to draw up disguised "nickel/safety" blitzes, but with Harold Perkins.
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Will be interesting chess match. To be honest I doubt A&M is the team to make him play in coverage. They are going to be a run first team and will just right straight at him to negate his speed.
Here is where him being more off ball helps. He's coming downhill as a safety type and shooting a gap, instead of read/react pure LB or just getting bulldozed by a tackle.
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I’m not trolling, just talking ball. So we’ll see how it shakes out.
I can tell. It's rare over here.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46126 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:34 pm to
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If a 185# running back can throw him around like this a 250# tight end might kill him.


We must be watching different videos
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8737 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:36 pm to
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I know this is hard to believe, but why is LSU overthinking this with Perkins? They guy excels at getting to the QB quickly. Stop trying to make him into a 3 down player if he cant hold up against the run.
Read the rest of the thread.

He is elite at speed rushing off the edge and stunting up the middle with the right DT help, but he's average to bad against a power running game.

He is a very good player in coverage. Making him STAR primarily allows him to do a little of both. We will certainly put him at EDGE in certain instances, just not every down.

He has the ability to be a 3 own player, just not at EDGE (which isn't really a 3 down position) or as a pure off ball LB. He's basically going to play 3 different positions this year, and it's all up to Baker to figure out when to put him where. I'm confident it will work out, especially with the emergence of Weeks as a superstar and a guy like Keys showing he can play LB well. It's not just Perk and some JAGS.
Posted by SLCGumpFB25
SLC
Member since Jun 2025
991 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Hopefully it works.


Pretty much the gameplan for the last decade or so, no?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19725 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:47 pm to
Harold Perkins shows up in two or three games every season. The rest of the time he is a ghost.

When he was a freshman I thought he was going to terrorize the SEC. Turns out he has only terrorized LSU.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66091 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 3:07 pm to
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We must be watching different videos


Bro, Achane literally threw him to the ground.

crapdalton said so.


Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37375 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 3:26 pm to
No one gives a frick about your insight, here or irl.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 3:39 pm to
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If an OC knows Perk is going to cover a TE

Well no shite if an OC knows what a defender is doing on a play he can scheme/call plays accordingly

The whole point of him moving to the star is the versitility the position allows and making it harder for OCs to do this

Idiot
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
1380 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 3:43 pm to
I think at this point it is obvious that it is not the coaching staff making the decision where Perkins. We all are aware of his strengths. This has to be a decision made by Perkins and his family. Either way he is a great football player. Hoping he contributes a lot this year.
Posted by NobodyImportant
Montana
Member since Nov 2024
1821 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 3:59 pm to
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I'll take my chances with Perk on tight ends.
Perkins gives up a good five-six inches to most elite TE's. He also will get pushed on his arse by those guys because he's the size of a DB.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15388 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 4:05 pm to
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But the aggies will take that loss to LSU this year slick.


I agree with you. Home team winning has been pretty consistent lately.

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If you know me so well... then you should just call.

Then again, if you actually know me... then you would have already called.


but we have this beautiful forum to do that.
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 4:23 pm
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
6711 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 4:23 pm to
He’s not anywhere near big enough to be an inside backer
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7928 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Everyone from that recruiting class is in the league already.
Everyone ?
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7928 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 4:25 pm to
He won't have a career in the NFL. The epitome of a tweener.
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