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Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:40 pm to Crowknowsbest
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You are just a walking UGA hot take
His entire existence on this board revolves around trolling UGA...pathetic.
He obviously developed an obsession/hatred growing up in Georgia.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:58 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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And how can you say he cost them the title
Inexperience via running random dumb plays (example: Fields fake punt). Mishandling of the QB situation. Those are things that stick out as on the job learning curb mistakes.
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He's a great fit for UGA being a Ga boy. He's elevated the program from Richt's last ten years
Have you seen the comparisons between CMR and CKS at this point in their careers? If CMR was let go because he couldn’t get UGA that last step, all Kirby has done is mirror him.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:01 am to FLObserver
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FLObserver
Throw in the towel bro take the L
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:57 am to Smokeyone
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Inexperience via running random dumb plays (example: Fields fake punt).
Even saban makes such mistakes.
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Mishandling of the QB situation.
Even saban makes such mistakes.
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Have you seen the comparisons between CMR and CKS at this point in their careers? If CMR was let go because he couldn’t get UGA that last step, all Kirby has done is mirror him.
I will let someone else tackle this extremely stupid take. A uga obsessed person should know how stupid it is.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:06 am to djsdawg
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Inexperience via running random dumb plays (example: Fields fake punt). Even saban makes such mistakes.
The difference is Sabans mistakes are in hindsight. Fighting for a second to attempt a long distance FG vs the most obvious and poorly executed fake punt of all time
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Mishandling of the QB situation.
Hurts, Tua, Mac all on the roster. All 3 used. Only Hurts transferred and only when a back up to Tua was ready. Compared to how Kirby handled every QB that’s every played for him.
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I will let someone else tackle this.
That should be your mantra. Really you should let it be your guiding principle when reading football message boards.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 7:16 am to Smokeyone
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difference is Sabans mistakes are in hindsight. Fighting for a second to attempt a long distance FG vs the most obvious and poorly executed fake punt of all time
Nah. Hell, saban even had an awful failed fake in a national title game AFTER Kirby did.
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Hurts, Tua, Mac all on the roster.
He cost bama a shot at the sec title in 2017 by making a qb mistake, but we already know you have no grasp of understanding why bama lost to auburn in 2017.
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That should be your mantra.
The guy specially said “last 10 years”, and you respond by bringing up his first 5 years, and while proving you don’t even understand why he was fired. It’s hard to be that bad at reading, but you pulled it off in classic milledgeville college manner.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 8:43 am to djsdawg
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He cost bama a shot at the sec title in 2017 by making a qb mistake, but we already know you have no grasp of understanding why bama lost to auburn in 2017.
He had QBs on the roster. Versus Kirby refusing to give guys a chance and stubbornly running off guys (especially black QBs) in favor of good ole boys. Huge difference. One managed talent and could be second guessed after the fact. The other has a demonstrable record of consistently mismanagement of QBs. They are not the same.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 8:45 am to djsdawg
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The guy specially said “last 10 years”, and you respond by bringing up his first 5 years, and while proving you don’t even understand why he was fired. It’s hard to be that bad at reading, but you pulled it off in classic milledgeville college manner.
So Kirby is doing a little better than bad CMR and equal to good CMR.
You should have remembered your mantra.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 10:26 am to 3putts
Alter Boy?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 11:58 am to Smokeyone
quote:Other than Fields (which is debatable when you don't have hindsight bias), which QBs has Smart consistently mismanaged?
The other has a demonstrable record of consistently mismanagement of QBs.
His first season, he threw our young stud Jacob Eason out there, which pretty much every UGA fan thought was the right move given he was looked at as our future.
His second season, Eason went down and Fromm stepped in and played extremely well for a true freshman, helping us make it to a national championship and nearly won it. Eason recognized his defeat and moved on.
The 3rd season was the battle with Fields.
The 4th season, Fields was gone and there were no contenders to unseat Fromm, who played well his first two seasons anyway.
The 5th season was last year: Fromm unexpectedly left for the NFL and we didn't have anyone who was ready to step up immediately, so Smart went out and got arguably the best QB possible as a transfer (Newman), then picked up another transfer (Daniels) as a project in case his knee healed in time. Newman quit just a few weeks before the start of the season because it was going to be an asterisk due to COVID and he likely didn't want to hurt his draft stock. Daniels wasn't ready to play so we went with our practice QB (after the next guy up--recovering from brain surgery--didn't pan out) and still managed to win some games.
Daniels is now ready to light it up for this next season.
So let's recap: Smart has been head coach for 5 seasons, going on 6, and has had one season where his handling was potentially suspect. I'm failing to see this consistent mismanagement you're talking about.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:14 pm to FooManChoo
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nearly won it.
Keep seeing things like this posted by Georgia fans. They also like to talk about a Rose Bowl appearance almost 4 seasons ago like it happened yesterday. Is there any wonder why they haven't won a natty since 1980?
Kirby Smart has exactly the same amount of playoff appearances as Mark Dantonio, Chris Petersen, Mark Helfrich, and Ed Orgeron. Whoop-de-doo.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:28 pm to ronricks
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They also like to talk about a Rose Bowl appearance almost 4 seasons ago like it happened yesterday.
They do?
The only Rose Bowl references I've seen are responses to the insipid "Kirby can't win a big game" yahoo's.He's also won others but that being the best example.
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Kirby Smart has exactly the same amount of playoff appearances as Mark Dantonio, Chris Petersen, Mark Helfrich, and Ed Orgeron
How many of those did it in their 2nd year as a HC?
How many years have each been a HC?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:34 pm to RD Dawg
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How many of those did it in their 2nd year as a HC?
Its not 2017 anymore. It is 2021. Kirby isn't in his second year anymore. That was my whole point. Georgia fans keep pointing to the past like it matters.
Kirby is Mark Richt with a different haircut. In fact, Kirby did better with Richt's leftover players than he has done with his own recruits.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:49 pm to Smokeyone
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So Kirby is doing a little better than bad CMR and equal to good CMR.
A little better than very good CMR and much better than “last 10 years” CMR.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:08 pm to Smokeyone
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He had QBs on the roster.
In 2017, saban made the same decision going into the seccg as Kirby did in 2018. If one managed that good, so did the other.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:26 pm to ronricks
quote:I mentioned it in relation to the comment about Smart mismanaging his QBs. It was relevant.quote:
nearly won it.
Keep seeing things like this posted by Georgia fans.
quote:It occurred during our current coach's 2nd season. That, too, is relevant.
They also like to talk about a Rose Bowl appearance almost 4 seasons ago like it happened yesterday.
quote:You make it sound like it's easy to win one and UGA is somehow not desirous of a win. It's hard to win, and in recent years when we've been good enough to win it, we've been beaten by a better team. That's football. That's sports. That's life.
Is there any wonder why they haven't won a natty since 1980?
The key is having an AD, coaches, and players that can put us in a position to win it all, and we finally have those things to consistently compete every year.
quote:While many fans seem to be under the misunderstanding that it's easy to win national championships (just be Bama or Clemson), it's really not easy at all, even if you have the best players at every position on the field as a few teams consistently do (Alabama in particular).
Kirby Smart has exactly the same amount of playoff appearances as Mark Dantonio, Chris Petersen, Mark Helfrich, and Ed Orgeron. Whoop-de-doo.
If Smart is good enough to recruit the right players and assistants to win it all, it will likely happen at some point. Dabo Swinney was Clemson's HC for 7 years before his first appearance in a national championship game and 8 before he won his first. Each coach and team is different and it takes time to get all the right pieces in place to compete for a championship, much less win one, unless everything comes together fortuitously overnight, which doesn't generally happen. Much is needed to win and it can take years of building to get teams in a place to compete for one.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:27 pm to ronricks
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Its not 2017 anymore. It is 2021. Kirby isn't in his second year anymore. That was my whole point. Georgia fans keep pointing to the past like it matters.
Uga has lived in the top 10 since 2017, and that’s been despite some bad luck going against us.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:35 pm to FooManChoo
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You make it sound like it's easy to win one
Nearly every school surrounding Georgia has won a NC since you last won one (some of them have done it multiple times)
Nearly all your rivals have won one since Georgia last did. I mean look at a map of the Southeast.....it's littered with National Championship winning programs since 1980:
Florida State (multiple times)
Clemson (multiple times)
Florida (multiple times)
Auburn
Alabama (multiple times)
Georgia Tech
Tennessee
LSU (multiple times)
Miami (multiple times)
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:36 pm to djsdawg
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Uga has lived in the top 10 since 2017, and that’s been despite some bad luck going against us.
Cool story. Kirby Smart has 1 SEC championship.
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