re: Is Georgia-Georgia Tech a real rivalry?

It's the classic football powerhouse vs much more intelligent fan base rivalry. Kind of like the Iron Bowl.

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They won the Orange Bowl last year

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This. Also, they have won a national championship more recently than UGA.

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They apply to your point that Vandy could NEVER EVER do that if they played in the ACC.

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Vandy has never had a team capable of getting to the Orange Bowl and beating a team as good as 2014 Mississippi State handily. Even from the ACC. That 2013 Vandy team was not nearly as good as 2014 GT.

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Or your general point that Vandy could never be a better program than GT.

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Well, they've failed to do so for a century. You'll have to excuse me for having doubts.

Tech can and has recently won their conference....Vandy, not so much, not even in their dreams.

Georgia Tech faired well in their last match ups with Auburn though.

You people are out of your minds if you think Vandy from a few years ago couldn't compete in the ACC the last few years. Duke played for an ACC title. North Carolina played for one this year and couldn't beat our sorry team. Wake and Maryland have won ACC titles and played in the Orange Bowl recently for God's sake. The ACC is Florida St, Clemson, and a bunch of bad teams. Are the best Vandy teams as good as the best Tech teams, no. But Vandy had some pretty damn good teams a couple years back, and certainly could have made a title game there if they were in the division that didn't include Clemson and Florida St.

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When is the last time Vandy even beat TN?

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FYI, over the last 15 years vandy has performed much better against UT than tech has against us.

Lol not saying that UGA ultimately winning those games isn't important but from a talent perspective UGA should be beating GT by 2 TDs every year but that isn't the case. They are highly competitive contests that are closely played.

The fact that Vandy has beaten TN recently speaks more about the shitty state of TNs program more than it does Vandy. Vandy is no where near GT in terms of football historically or presently.

Hasn't Georgia Tech won a national championship since Georgia has?

Tech isn't a bad program - they just made a horrendous decision to leave the SEC and go independent in the 60s.

In the years leading up to the departure, Tech football was 6-3-1 versus Tennessee, 7-2-2 against Florida, 6-6-1 against Auburn, 7-6 against Alabama and 9-4 against state rival Georgia. Tech football had been ranked in the top 20 each of these years and had won the national championship in 1952.

They were trying to become the Notre Dame of the South in the advent of televised football. It didn't help that Bobby Dodd and Bear Bryant didn't care for one another.

And then there was this:

The SEC 140 Rule placed yearly caps on football and basketball scholarships at 45 and limited the total number of scholarships each school could offer to 140. Even with the normal attrition expected from academic dropouts and other issues, simple math shows that if a school recruited its full allotment of players each year it would be over the 140 maximum.

Instead of recruiting a smaller number of athletes each year to manage the 140 maximum, many SEC schools would simply cut the scholarships of players who had not performed to expectations. Atlanta’s afternoon newspaper, The Atlanta Journal, reported “Dodd’s chief complaint with the 140 has been the alleged practice of some schools ‘running off’ recruiting mistakes to make room for new signees.”

Dodd believed if he and his staff recruited an athlete out of high school based on his talents, the scholarship should be in place for the duration of the player’s time at Tech.

The Atlanta Constitution made reference to this earlier vote in its Jan. 24, 1964, paper. “Last winter, Alabama’s Paul Bryant had voted with Tech and five other league athletic directors to lift the 140 Rule. But the following day, Alabama president Dr. Frank Rose switched ’Bama’s support in the other direction to give the 140 measure another year of life.”

This was the primary reason that Georgia Tech left the SEC. Alabama stabbed them in the back.

If you want the full story, here's the best read on the subject: LINK

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GT is better than 99% of the cupcake OOC opponents that Bama (and Auburn, and everyone else in the SEC) schedules, and it's a traditional in-state rivalry.

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No, GT is not a better program than FSU (07), Clemson (08), Virginia Tech (09 and 13), Penn State (10 and 11), Michigan (12), West Virginia (14), Wisconsin (15), or Southern Cal (16).

Literally every single year we schedule a better OOC than GT. You couldn't be more wrong.