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re: Is Auburn's offense balanced enough to beat Bama?

Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17898 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:09 pm to
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That is alright. We are playing with house money.


Gus has a chance to make a huge statement about his tenure with this game. I'm not buying the house money line and I doubt he is either. Will he show that his game plan can change to fit the opponent, use the pass to set up the run, and get this win? That's the OP's question and it's a good one.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28465 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:11 pm to
Auburn passed more vs UGA just fine.

Auburn Offense
Passing: 243 yards, 1TD, AVG 8.8 y/att
Rushing: 323 yards, 4TD, AVG 5.7 y/att

UGA supposedly has a good front 7 against the rush.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4148 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:12 pm to
I pretty much agree with you. We will have to play our best game to win this one. Even then it'll be close.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:13 pm to
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comparing your offense to A&M's?


We run, they throw. The difference in yard per play is less than .5 yards.

These are the top two offenses in the SEC ...they just get thier production in different ways.

AU is more balanced tham A&M however. We run 64% of the time...they pass 66% of the time.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29142 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:16 pm to
This "balanced O" shite does not matter one bit. I think Auburn's O is plenty good enough to beat bama. Stack the box. If you think Auburn can't throw the deep ball, then you haven't watched Auburn. I'm not sure if he still leads the nation, but as of a few weeks ago Sammy Coates led the nation in YPC. All it takes is two deep balls, whether they are completed or not, and that opens things up tremendously. The fact that you "might do something" is enough to keep D's honest.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:18 pm to
Difference is that you run and Bama's strength is defending the run. A&M passes and Bama's weakness is defending the pass. Most likely Auburn will give as good as it gets when on offense (i.e. fairly even match), but nothing like what A&M did.
The Auburn defense does not match up nearly as well against the Bama offense.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17898 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:19 pm to
What's so hilarious about LSU's offense being better than Auburn's? Last I checked LSU out scored Auburn by two touchdowns head to head, in the rain, where the running team should hold the advantage. Are you asserting that Auburn's defense is worse than LSU's?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54923 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Stack the box. If you think Auburn can't throw the deep ball, then you haven't watched Auburn


I mean, AU can, but it will be hard to get an open man if you cant use some sort of play action to set it up...

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All it takes is two deep balls, whether they are completed or not, and that opens things up tremendously.


seriously?

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The fact that you "might do something" is enough to keep D's honest.


That fact is already on the table, though. Our coaches realize that yall MIGHT do something.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Is Auburn's offense balanced enough to beat Bama?


UT is the most balanced offense the SEC. The are 53/47.

MSU 55/45
LSU is 57/43
Arky 59/41


A&M is 66/34
AU is 64/36

Balance seems to work in Bama's favor. Is AU's offense balanced enough...i hope not.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:22 pm to
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A&M is 66/34 AU is 64/36


One of those numbers is backwards.. My guess is that you meant AU is 36/64. Pass 36% of the time and run 64% of the time.. No way that A&M runs 66% and passes 34%
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1675 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:24 pm to
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Bama has only faced one offense like ours...and they dropped 600 yards on them.


Other than the pace, there's not a lot of similarities between auburn and A&M. Bama was at a disadvantage against A&M because of inexperienced cornerbacks and the fact that they had the reigning Heisman winner throwing the ball to a giant. Bama's defensive backs are much better now and even if they weren't, I don't think auburn would have the passing ability to exploit that consistently the way that A&M did.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29142 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:24 pm to
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All it takes is two deep balls, whether they are completed or not, and that opens things up tremendously.


seriously?




Yes, seriously. You obviously aren't bright enough to figure it out. I will give you a hint....safeties.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:26 pm to
I did not specify which was which because it doesnt matter. I meant what I typed.

The question is of balance. I simply showed Bamas dominance over balanced teams and how the most unbalanced team racked up over 600 yards on them.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:28 pm to
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What's so hilarious about LSU's offense being better than Auburn's? Last I checked LSU out scored Auburn by two touchdowns head to head, in the rain, where the running team should hold the advantage. Are you asserting that Auburn's defense is worse than LSU's?
Why would you try to compare the two by looking at just one game? What did LSU and Auburn do the rest of the season?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:29 pm to
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Other than the pace, there's not a lot of similarities between auburn and A&M.


AU is 7th in the SEC is plays per game. A&M is 2nd.

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Bama's defensive backs are much better now


Guess who else is better.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:29 pm to
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parkjas2001


Ahh... But if you look at those numbers, the teams that run the ball more faired worse against Bama's defense than the teams that passed more.... Auburn runs much more often that the rest on that list...
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:29 pm to
Auburn's offense will do what has to to win games.
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54923 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:31 pm to
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Yes, seriously. You obviously aren't bright enough to figure it out. I will give you a hint....safeties.


lol so you are saying that running play action without being able to rush the ball effectively is somehow effective, even if it is unsuccessful?
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:31 pm to
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Auburn's offense will do what has to to sin games


Was that a Freudian slip?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17898 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Why would you try to compare the two by looking at just one game?


Why would I compare the two using the head to head match-up? Is that a real question?

In the only game where you don't have to use the transitive property, LSU's offense outperformed Auburn's by two touchdowns in an environment that should have favored Auburn's strength. If it's so hilarious to assert LSU has the better offense, why did that happen?
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