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re: Is Alabama really a dynasty??

Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:19 pm to
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LSU got a third chance in 2007. Oklahoma also didn't win their conference one season and still made the BCSNC


That's great...

no one on here is saying LSU is a dynasty lol

And the year OU didn't win their conference, they lost in the NC game and everyone said they didn't belong there BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. The next year the BCS changed its rules, much like after '11
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:20 pm to
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I'd say the wins over OU by 34


okay, cool

quote:

wins at A&M and Texas


are we talking about 2011 texas and aTm? those teams?
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
7042 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:21 pm to
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do we need a new term




no, we need a new you, r-tard
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62533 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:21 pm to
No but you did say that Alabama has to be in control of their conference during that time.


It was shown to you that they were.


Then you said they had to dominate their conference like Oklahoma.


It was shown to you that they had dominated significantly better than Oklahoma.


So now you're changing your argument to basically Bama got lucky breaks.


And we're showing you that generally lucky breaks are the rule, not the exception.
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:21 pm to
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Oklahoma (2002-2012) conference record: 73-17 (.811)
Alabama (2008-2012) conference record: 35-5 (.875)


you can't compare a 5 year span with a 10 year span...lol

beyond retarded, seriously

you'll have to wait till 2018, and see how Alabama fares...see how many SEC Championships they have...OU has quite a few Big XII titles in that span

Bama? 2 so far
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62533 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:22 pm to
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The next year the BCS changed its rules, much like after '11
What rule did the BCS change after 2011?
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25159 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:23 pm to
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You're being deliberately obtuse. You know as well as I do that 6-6 in the SEC >>>>>>>>> 7-5 in the Big 12


And Florida was 2 TDs better than Louisville last year, and OSU was 8 points better than Florida in 2006

I mean A&M fans can say they went from being a .500 team in the Big 12 to doing pretty damn well in the SEC.

I am looking at things objectively; OSU played more good teams than Bama did based on record

LINK

SOS OSU was much higher based on almost every single poll
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31851 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:24 pm to
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Clearly, winning your conference is better than NOT winning your conference....


Clearly! Bama football has won 23 of the mother phuckers. Tell us which SEC team is even close to that number.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 4:24 pm
Posted by PapiTide
Lower Alabama
Member since May 2013
8 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:24 pm to
The fact that there us 7 pages devoted to this topic should tell you, without a doubt, that it is a dynasty.
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:25 pm to
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And we're showing you that generally lucky breaks are the rule, not the exception.


I don't disagree with this at all....in fact, its the nature of college football national championships....

That's why I put so much emphasis on conference championships...those are truly won on the field, not by votes

So we agree, Alabama won their NCs because of lucky breaks, and not because of dominance during the regular season??
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62533 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:25 pm to
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I mean A&M fans can say they went from being a .500 team in the Big 12 to doing pretty damn well in the SEC.

Since we're gonna play that game, Mizzou went from being an 8-12 win team in the Big 12 to bottom of the barrel in the SEC
quote:

I am looking at things objectively; OSU played more good teams than Bama did based on record

Southern Miss had a good record a couple years ago too. You're not looking at things objectively. All those teams OSU played were also playing pansy records.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32657 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:25 pm to
Oh my god shut the frick up
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:26 pm to
I like that Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mizzou, and and OSU fans say yes.

A few LSU fans say no.

Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:26 pm to
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What rule did the BCS change after 2011?


lol

really?? First and foremost is that we're going to a playoff, and they are trying to do away with the term BCS
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

I don't disagree with this at all....in fact, its the nature of college football national championships....

That's why I put so much emphasis on conference championships...those are truly won on the field, not by votes

So we agree, Alabama won their NCs because of lucky breaks, and not because of dominance during the regular season??


Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62533 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

So we agree, Alabama won their NCs because of lucky breaks, and not because of dominance during the regular season??



95% dominance on the field, 5% lucky breaks


ETA: And I'm being generous
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25159 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to
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genro


Which objective measure would you like to use?

I used the SOS rankings, and almost every one of them had OSU over Bama.

I'm not debating this any more. Bama was the best in 2011, but shouldn't have played for the title
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31851 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Oklahoma (2002-2012) conference record: 73-17 (.811)
Alabama (2008-2012) conference record: 35-5 (.875)
quote:

you can't compare a 5 year span with a 10 year span...lol

beyond retarded, seriously

you'll have to wait till 2018, and see how Alabama fares...see how many SEC Championships they have...OU has quite a few Big XII titles in that span

Bama? 2 so far
Seriously, I think you have brain damage.

But, I give you credit for making the time fly by this afternoon.
Posted by EvilVodka
Member since Dec 2012
810 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Clearly! Bama football has won 23 of the mother phuckers. Tell us which SEC team is even close to that number.


we're talking Alabama from '09-Present...lol

Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 5/14/13 at 4:27 pm to
They played their games out on the field as did all other teams. In the end they were put into the national championship and won the game. No matter what you say that is the way it happened and will be remembered. They dominated enough to get into the game and then dominated the game.

You analogies as to 2011 Alabama and 2012 Florida are based on logical fallacies because of who Alabama jumped vs. who Florida would have jumped.
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