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re: In all seriousness- give credit to Ole Miss
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:03 pm to GreyReb
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:03 pm to GreyReb
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There was a way for Kiffin to leave where Ole Miss Fns basically appreciated him for the 6 great years nd realized it was best for all for him to move on.
Ole Miss fans say this but they can never describe how he should have did it.
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Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:04 pm to geauxcoco
Just because he was unsuccessful due to the team coming together in the playoff does not mean there wasn’t an attempt.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:05 pm to TMRebel
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Just because he was unsuccessful due to the team coming together in the playoff does not mean there wasn’t an attempt.
What was the attempt?
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
The entirety of the “will they or won’t they coach for Ole Miss” saga. As already established, it’s normal for coaches to be allowed to stay at their current gig when in the playoffs. Kiffin first announced that he would “allow” these coaches to coach for Ole Miss the night before the last regular season playoff rankings came out. The ones that essentially decided if Ole Miss would go or not. That ambiguity Kiffin introduced, from my very biased seat, I admit, can’t be construed as anything but malicious, as the committee had already finished their deliberations when it was announced. I believe it was done to affect our seeding and failed.
He then allowed the ambiguity to continue after each win and only ended the charade after the portal opened and it was no longer convenient to flaunt magnanimity. And during this time, these coaches were definitely tampering. I assign no moral judgment to this, it’s simply a fact of college football today and goes both ways. But it was part of the calculus to “allow” the coaches to continue.
Final point: I know I’m looking at this with red and blue glasses. I do believe Lane and Keith got in a pissing match and Keith had one lever and used it. If we were 8-4, I think Lane announces in the Egg Bowl presser and there’d be some but less heartburn over it. But we went 11-1, Keith used the playoff as leverage, it didn’t convince Lane, and we are where we are.
He then allowed the ambiguity to continue after each win and only ended the charade after the portal opened and it was no longer convenient to flaunt magnanimity. And during this time, these coaches were definitely tampering. I assign no moral judgment to this, it’s simply a fact of college football today and goes both ways. But it was part of the calculus to “allow” the coaches to continue.
Final point: I know I’m looking at this with red and blue glasses. I do believe Lane and Keith got in a pissing match and Keith had one lever and used it. If we were 8-4, I think Lane announces in the Egg Bowl presser and there’d be some but less heartburn over it. But we went 11-1, Keith used the playoff as leverage, it didn’t convince Lane, and we are where we are.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:28 pm to TigerFan244
LK simply entered the "Transfer Portal!"
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:39 pm to TMRebel
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Final point: I know I’m looking at this with red and blue glasses. I do believe Lane and Keith got in a pissing match and Keith had one lever and used it. If we were 8-4, I think Lane announces in the Egg Bowl presser and there’d be some but less heartburn over it. But we went 11-1, Keith used the playoff as leverage, it didn’t convince Lane, and we are where we are.
Yeah, I don't think there was a "good way" to do it, just from a timing standpoint.
Per LSU's AD, they would have been fine to wait until the Ole Miss season was done before announcing Lane, but it doesn't sound like Ole Miss was just going to let it drag out like that.
It seems like many posters here feel like that would've been a better option but the distraction and media chatter would've been insane with Ole Miss playing playoff games and the LSU job just sitting open for a month.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
On Ole Miss’s side, it’s really all we had to keep him on board. Lane obviously values what bigger programs have and wants it today. We can promise the pay and NIL commitment, but the prestige and 100k stadium will take decades for us to build up to if we ever do it. But if you say during negotiations that “if you choose another school, you can’t coach in the playoff”, you have to follow through.
I personally think Lane’s coaching impact on the game would be negligible and I’m not sure his presence makes our run defense or secondary better. But that’s also with hindsight in mind.
I do believe ripping the bandaid off was the right thing from an organizational standpoint. We’ll see if Pete is the answer that Keith wants him to be. I’m pessimistic.
I personally think Lane’s coaching impact on the game would be negligible and I’m not sure his presence makes our run defense or secondary better. But that’s also with hindsight in mind.
I do believe ripping the bandaid off was the right thing from an organizational standpoint. We’ll see if Pete is the answer that Keith wants him to be. I’m pessimistic.
This post was edited on 1/11/26 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:51 pm to SidewalkTiger
It all played out exactly how it should have. Keith made the right choice. Kiffin and staff trying to coach a round 3 game with the portal open and would have been a disaster.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:26 pm to TMRebel
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I personally think Lane’s coaching impact on the game would be negligible and I’m not sure his presence makes our run defense or secondary better. But that’s also with hindsight in mind.
Maybe he helps in gameplanning, I don't know.
I tend to have the unpopular opinion that head coaches don't have THAT much of an impact on single game results once the ball has been spotted, other than 4th down calls where Lane could have maybe been a liability.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:28 pm to Quicksilver
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It all played out exactly how it should have. Keith made the right choice. Kiffin and staff trying to coach a round 3 game with the portal open and would have been a disaster.
I agree. LSU just waiting on Kiffin would have put both programs behind the ball for next season.
Now let's get rid of ESD and move the portal window to late January-early February and we can keep this from ever happening again.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:32 pm to TMRebel
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I think we can objectively give him credit when we can also objectively say he tried his damndest to destroy it after leaving.
You can blame your AD for this. Should have let him coach the playoffs. Thought he was a badass by telling Kiffin to walk but then bowed down to other coaches who were going to LSU.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:33 pm to TigerFan244
Incredible effort from their defense considering Miami had the ball for over 41 minutes.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:37 pm to TigerFan244
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:39 pm to topcat88
See above so I don’t have to type it again.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:44 pm to SidewalkTiger
It’s a pet peeve of mine that everything is “coaching” or game results are always “they got out coached”. Like how folks were talking about both UGA games this year. Kirby didn’t out coach Kiffin, the kids made more plays for UGA. Pete didn’t out coach Kirby, the kids made a few more plays this time for Ole Miss. Both teams are well coached, they just have the ball fall a certain way or the 1-on-1 reps and wins accumulate over a game.
And I’m not so sure Lane goes for it as much as he has in the past. Lucas is a serious kicker. Analytics come into play if you don’t view the 3 as automatic imo.
And I’m not so sure Lane goes for it as much as he has in the past. Lucas is a serious kicker. Analytics come into play if you don’t view the 3 as automatic imo.
This post was edited on 1/11/26 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:49 pm to TMRebel
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It’s a pet peeve of mine that everything is “coaching” or game results are always “they got out coached”. Like how folks were talking about both UGA games this year. Kirby didn’t out coach Kiffin, the kids made more plays for UGA. Pete didn’t out coach Kirby, the kids made a few more plays this time for Ole Miss. Both teams are well coached, they just have the ball fall a certain way or the 1-on-1 reps and wins accumulate over a game.
Agreed. From a coaching standpoint, most of the hay is already in the barn once a game starts.
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And I’m not so sure Lane goes for it as much as he has in the past. Lucas is a serious kicker. Analytics come into play if you don’t view the 3 as automatic imo.
The kid is a weapon for sure.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:54 pm to TigerFan244
Haha frick them. They could be going to a national championship game if they let Kiffin coach them to the end but they acted like the burned ex girlfriend.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 4:03 pm to Raz
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They would be in the ncg if they were focused on winning.
And LSU wouldn't have finished 7-6 this year if they were focused on winning.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 4:10 pm to geauxcoco
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Yeah, this whole he tried to destroy them on the way out as the biggest bunch of bullshite I’ve ever heard
He tried he just wasn’t successful.
Telling every coach to get on the plane with him. Tampering with Ole Miss players to get them to come with him.
All during a playoff run. Luckily most of the people who he tried to take also think he’s a piece of shite and he left empty handed.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 4:16 pm to ManBearSharkReb
Wild how this thread was started by an LSU fan and was very quickly shite all over by the usual subspecies suspects.
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