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re: In 4 years Mike Shula recruited only one 5 star at Alabama Andre Smith.

Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Two0Five
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:01 am to
I don't know about that, played against him in hs, didn't seem all that soft to me.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:13 am to
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Andre Smith


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:19 am to
so Rivals guys who never played football decide who is a "5 star", amirite?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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75807 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:21 am to
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HAD 1 WINNING SEASON IN 4 YEARS AT ALABAMA. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.
I do, regularly and get hard thinking about it
Posted by Wallacewade04
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:37 am to
Ok

To be fair. Someone had to ride that NCAA probation train for four years to get us back to normal and Mike did a decent job.

He brought in Antoine Caldwell, Javier Arenas, and a lot of the depth that made up the 2008-09 teams

And I'm glad we get to dump on him and not Sylvester Croom who everybody agrees is a solid guy. I do not want to know what some of our yahoos would have had to say about Croom when those teams inevitably failed due to sanctions.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:20 am to
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Guy was to soft, terrible OC, lazy, last name got him the job, terrible work out program, terrible organizer, had no leadership skills, blew more 4th quarter game than any coach, no discipline team full of thugs that Saban had to run off.

HAD 1 WINNING SEASON IN 4 YEARS AT ALABAMA. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.


Well, it's obvious you weren't an Alabama fan during these years.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:20 am to
So ignore all the significant players on the 2009 title team he brought in? Javy, McElroy, Woodall, Marquis Johnson, Upchurch, Mike Johnson, Deadrick, Cory Reamer. Most of the 2007 class committed to Shula's as well. Rolando, Vlachos, Luther Davis. 2009 doesn't happen without those guys.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:22 am to
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So ignore all the significant players on the 2009 title team he brought in? Javy, McElroy, Woodall, Marquis Johnson, Upchurch, Mike Johnson, Deadrick, Cory Reamer. Most of the 2007 class committed to Shula's as well. Rolando, Vlachos, Luther Davis. 2009 doesn't happen without those guys.


You can really take it further than that and say without Shula, there is no way in the world we hire Saban.

Shula kept the program relatively clean. Hell, at that point I was just glad to have a coach who didn't embarrass us off the field.

No way in hell I ever hate on Shula.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30675 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:29 pm to
Not a fan of those fans. Your team should be clearly marked and never in doubt.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:57 pm to
Back when Tyrone Protho got hurt in the Florida game, Alabama was trucking most everyone they were playing. They were on a really good trajectory that season before his injury then the air went out of the sails. Shula was not as bad as some try to portray him.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Canyon16
Muscle Shoals
Member since Nov 2017
3841 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:16 pm to
I admire Shula as a clutch QB.
I admire him for coming back, accepting the job in difficult circumstances.
I remember, as far as recruiting goes, high school coaches in the Mobile area saying they never saw Shula.
If he had interest in one of their players, he would make phone calls. Whereas, they said Saban (when at LSU) was constantly flying in, making personal visits to the school, recruiting the player.
Posted by BamaDude06
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Member since Jan 2007
3696 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:22 pm to
Shula didn't have a backbone as a coach. One of the first things Joe Kines did as interim coach was force guys to go to class. The story around town was Shula would make smart arse comments when guys were late to team meetings...unless you were Brodie Croyle. And since Croyle was apparently late regularly the story goes other guys would wait for him to show up and then all walk in together essentially daring Shula to say something to them...which of course he didn't. Yeah sanctions definitely didn't help ...but neither did the lack of discipline .
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3696 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:39 pm to
And yet he was still drafted 6 overall and spent over a decade in the league...
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