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re: I'll give DeBoer one thing
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:29 pm to JackTiger99
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:29 pm to JackTiger99
It's funny that according to that link you provided with all of Bama's talent, Tennessee was ranked 17th, Auburn was ranked 18th and Ole Miss 20th. Yet both Ole Miss and Tennessee, with relatively the same amount of talent as Auburn, drastically did better than Auburn. According to that linked you posted, Auburns roster talent isn't as bad as you're trying to put on. Stats vs opinions and such. I'll hang up and listen...
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:32 pm to NWLA_Bama
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It's funny that according to that link you provided with all of Bama's talent, Tennessee was ranked 17th, Auburn was ranked 18th and Ole Miss 20th. Yet both Ole Miss and Tennessee, with relatively the same amount of talent as Auburn, drastically did better than Auburn. According to that linked you posted, Auburns roster talent isn't as bad as you're trying to put on. Stats vs opinions and such. I'll hang up and listen...
The coaches at both Tennessee and Ole Miss have been at their schools much longer so the players are more suitable to the type of teams those guys want to build. The players are also likely more experienced, most of Auburn's talent is fairly young IIRC
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:33 pm to JackTiger99
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Not recruiting wise, not even close. If the results on the field don’t pick up this year I will agree but it is hard to flip a SEC dumpster fire in 2 years
Seems like you've had enough talent to do better than you have. I thought he would do better, not a ton better but 8-9 wins.
36 recruits last year, and 42 recruits the year prior.
That's 78 recruits on an 85 player limit.
You've got another 41 so far this year too, that's almost half the roster.
Not much excuse if he doesn't do well this year.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
Spoiled Alabama fans not understanding how college football works is an endless gift.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:52 pm to 3down10
Agree, if there is not clear sign of improvement this season I think most fans will want to move on.
Sucks the last two teams didn’t realize their full potential but even if they did I don’t think Auburn fans missed out on much.
Sucks the last two teams didn’t realize their full potential but even if they did I don’t think Auburn fans missed out on much.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:53 pm to Hold da Mayo
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yeah if you like older woman LMAO
Buddy, if you don't you are sorely missing out.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:54 pm to 3down10
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Seems like you've had enough talent to do better than you have. I thought he would do better, not a ton better but 8-9 wins.
36 recruits last year, and 42 recruits the year prior.
That's 78 recruits on an 85 player limit.
You've got another 41 so far this year too, that's almost half the roster.
So a lot of true freshmen and sophomores?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:03 pm to RollTide4547
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I'm basing it on winning percentage. Kelly has an overall record of 292-107 73%. Deboer has an overall record of 113-16 87.6%.
This is what I'm talking about. Neither of those metrics matter because neither HC is where they used to be.
So compare first year LSU BK to first year bama deboer, what did each HC start off with at their new school, plus any accomplishments.
Bk went 10-4 in yr one, won the SECW, played for the SECC, and won their bowl game. All after taking over a team that had 39 scholarship players.
KD went 9-4 and lost their bowl game. All after taking over for Saban, and starting with 70 or more scholarship players.
Year one comparison.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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At LSU, Kelly has a win percentage of .725
At Bama, DeBoer has a win percentage of .692
All true and pretty much exactly what I said. Kelly did better in his first year at LSU than Deboer did at Alabama. Since Deboer has only been at Bama 1 season, we will need to look at the 2 previous years at Washington. Kelly has be at lsu for 3 years and his record is 29-11. If we look at the same 3 years for Deboer (2024 at Bama and 2022-2023 at Washington), we see 33-7 (with trip to the college playoffs). Deboer has a winning percentage of 82.5% in the same timeframe as Kelly's 72.5%.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:48 pm to JackTiger99
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Big mad lol. Fans aren’t the ones conducting the coaching searches by the way. Freeze can recruit well and Harsin was awful at it. Xs and Os wise? Who knows hard to judge either with the shite teams they had, but Hugh’s tenure has shown much more promise than Harsins and roughly the same as DeBoers. Both recruited well but missed expectations on the field in 2024..
Let's assume you are right and Freeze is a much better recruiter. He's been recruiting for 2 years and has replaced 2 years of harsins bad recruits. Say Harsin's recruiting level is a 4 out 10 and Freeze's is an 8 out of 10. The team that Freeze fielded in 2024 would have been an average of 6 in recruiting (2 years of Harsin's 4's and 2 years of Freeze's 8's). Essentially the team that Freeze fielded in 2024 was essentially 50% better than Harsin's. Yet the outcome of the season was the same.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:50 pm to Imber
You think a multi-millionaire who could get with a younger woman who looks better out kicked his coverage because you think his older wife is attractive?
He literally coudl get divorced tomorrow and have a better looking younger version.
If anything she is the one who out kicked anything to get a loving dedicated man who is successful and doesn't want to leave her for a new model.
He literally coudl get divorced tomorrow and have a better looking younger version.
If anything she is the one who out kicked anything to get a loving dedicated man who is successful and doesn't want to leave her for a new model.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:50 pm to JackTiger99
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Not recruiting wise, not even close
If he is recruiting much better, he had a much team this year yet the outcome was the same as Harsin.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:58 pm to YStar
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You think a multi-millionaire who could get with a younger woman who looks better out kicked his coverage because you think his older wife is attractive?
What makes you think younger is better? Deboer married his wife in 2001. As offensive coordinator at Sioux Falls, he was the same person he is now just less money. He out kicked his coverage back then by a long shot. Good for him.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:15 pm to RollTide4547
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All true and pretty much exactly what I said. Kelly did better in his first year at LSU than Deboer did at Alabama. Since Deboer has only been at Bama 1 season, we will need to look at the 2 previous years at Washington. Kelly has be at lsu for 3 years and his record is 29-11. If we look at the same 3 years for Deboer (2024 at Bama and 2022-2023 at Washington), we see 33-7 (with trip to the college playoffs). Deboer has a winning percentage of 82.5% in the same timeframe as Kelly's 72.5%.
Why?
That has nothing to do with what he's done at Bama.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:16 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Latter-day university?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:18 pm to RollTide4547
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Let's assume you are right and Freeze is a much better recruiter. He's been recruiting for 2 years and has replaced 2 years of harsins bad recruits. Say Harsin's recruiting level is a 4 out 10 and Freeze's is an 8 out of 10. The team that Freeze fielded in 2024 would have been an average of 6 in recruiting (2 years of Harsin's 4's and 2 years of Freeze's 8's). Essentially the team that Freeze fielded in 2024 was essentially 50% better than Harsin's. Yet the outcome of the season was the same.
His transition class were true sophomores this year and his first real class were true freshmen.
Some of your takes make no sense.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:05 pm to SidewalkTiger
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His transition class were true sophomores this year and his first real class were true freshmen.
Bama played lots of freshmen and sophomores this year, however Deboer is criticized (by people here) for not performing well enough. why does that only apply to Deboer? Did Auburn have freshmen and sophomores that started? If so, a great recruiter would have better players on the field than Harsin. Yet the outcome was the same.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why?
That has nothing to do with what he's done at Bama.
Comparing apples to apples. Why does Kelly get three years and Deboer only 1? We can compare Kelly's first with Deboer's first and that's fair. We are not comparing schools, we're comparing coaches. So we can compare the body of work put in by each, regardless of the school.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:11 pm to SouthernInsanity
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Year one comparison.
Kelly did better in year 1. I stated that previously. However, if we look at total accomplishments (wins vs losses) Deboer has been more successful as a coach. He has.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:42 pm to Imber
Does he like pineapples? Specifically upside down ones?
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