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re: If UGA is able to reach its full potential under Kirby Smart....
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:24 pm to ZeusStamos
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:24 pm to ZeusStamos
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Alabama high school football sucks
Wut
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It does. Alabama high school football is worthless.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:28 pm to ZeusStamos
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That is what we are capable of as a program.
You have had one guy do that. One. And it was forever ago.
That is not the norm for Georgia football.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:28 pm to ZeusStamos
I was told yesterday that UGA didn't choke
Regardless, this is silly speculation. I can just as easily argue 2007 UGA demolishes the playoff field as they were playing better than anyone else at the time. Richt was a very good coach, it will be challenging for Kirby to win that extra game or two that it takes to exceed what CMR did.
Kirby has the benefit of playing in a much easier east than Richt, but Richt had his best shots pre Saban. You might even have to beat Saban twice to get that Natty.
Regardless, this is silly speculation. I can just as easily argue 2007 UGA demolishes the playoff field as they were playing better than anyone else at the time. Richt was a very good coach, it will be challenging for Kirby to win that extra game or two that it takes to exceed what CMR did.
Kirby has the benefit of playing in a much easier east than Richt, but Richt had his best shots pre Saban. You might even have to beat Saban twice to get that Natty.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:32 pm to ZeusStamos
quote:No one knows the "full potential" of UGA, and neither do you. Since the conference split in 1992, UGA is the only program in the Big 6 that hasn't won a national championship. Winning a national championship shows a semblance of a teams full potential.
I think Tennessee and Auburn fans are jealous because they know that their full potential is nowhere close to UGA's full potential. I think LSU fans fear that is the truth for their program as well. If Kirby really gets thing thing going, you guys are all fricked.
I've never had ill will or animosity of any kind towards UGA, I've always like the team/coaches and had no issue with their fans. But damn there are some shitty UGA posters on here and they're irritating as hell.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:32 pm to ZeusStamos
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Alabama high school football is worthless.
6th in the nation in NFL players total and 2nd in the nation in NFL players per capita is "worthless high school football"?
And Jake is the one demonstrating lackluster analytical abilities?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:33 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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If UGA is able to reach its full potential under Kirby Smart.... by Jake_LaMotta
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Even a 12 year old understands the concept of a ceiling in the context of team achievements
yes which is why I brought it up. One championship 38 years ago doesn't mean anything in regards to your ceiling in 2018. We know what your ceiling is. It is what Richt did.
Your problem is not understanding what is or isn't evidence of a ceiling. Bringing up 1980 backfired badly. You provided evidence of our ceiling without knowing it and then said it doesn't count like a true simple mind would.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Jake is the one demonstrating lackluster analytical abilities?
Jake having a simple mind doesn't keep anyone else from also having a simple mind.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:34 pm to djsdawg
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Jake having a simple mind doesn't keep anyone else from also having a simple mind.
All the Simple Jacks!
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:38 pm to Cocotheape
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it will be challenging for Kirby to win that extra game or two that it takes to exceed what CMR did.
Beating AU and OU back to back already exceeded what richt did in his best season.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
All of the Alabama guys that make it to the NFL are complete busts.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:39 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Your ceiling is what Richt took you to
What was Miami's ceiling before Schnellenberger figured to keep the talent home? What about FSU's ceiling before Bowden? I'm pretty sure that in 1978, no one thought those were about to become two of the premier powerhouse programs in college football.
UGA is 60-70 miles away from one of the best hotbeds of high school football talent in America. Much like Miami before Schnellenberger and Jimmy Johnson, Georgia has had a rough time keeping the best in state talent to stay home. It is why Georgia has been the biggest sleeping giant in college football forever. It's early, but it looks like Kirby is finally starting to put a fence around the state.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:39 pm to djsdawg
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Your problem is not understanding what is or isn't evidence of a ceiling. Bringing up 1980 backfired badly. You provided evidence of our ceiling without knowing it and then said it doesn't count like a true simple mind would.
Since the conference split in 1992, UGA is the only program in the Big 6 that hasn't won a national championship. Winning a national championship shows a semblance of a teams full potential.
1980 was an outlier. You are not a championship program. What part about this do you not understand? It isn't normal for Georgia to compete for much less win National Championships. Do you understand this? I know you have an inflated sense of self worth but Georgia is essentially Michigan State of the South. Do you think Michigan State fans would come on a B1G message board and type the delusional stuff you do?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:39 pm to ZeusStamos
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All of the Alabama guys that make it to the NFL are complete busts.
Are you trying to compete with Jake? You are doing an excellent job, FYI.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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6th in the nation in NFL players total and 2nd in the nation in NFL players per capita is "worthless high school football"?
Alabama high school football def isn't worthless but it is a good bit behind Georgia. Georgia has the best high school coaches in the south east and it's not debatable. So the 2nd most athletes in the south with the best coaches is a pretty good formula
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:41 pm to VADawg
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What was Miami's ceiling before Schnellenberger figured to keep the talent home? What about FSU's ceiling before Bowden? I'm pretty sure that in 1978, no one thought those were about to become two of the premier powerhouse programs in college football.
Miami has 5 national championships
FSU has 3 national championships
See the problem here with your logic? They didn't win one 38 years ago and then not win another one. They have been able to keep doing it. Georgia hasn't.
You have 1 National Championship back when Jimmy Carter was in office.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:43 pm to Pdubntrub
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Alabama high school football def isn't worthless but it is a good bit behind Georgia
I wouldn't even say it is a good bit behind. It's just on a much smaller scale. The per capita numbers bear that out.
The fact that a state the size of Alabama makes up at least half the roster for 2 all-time Top 20 programs (one of them being the all-time #1 or #2 program) is all you need to know for the level of play in the state. It's smaller and therefore has less kids, but the per capita and consistent collegiate success figures show it plays very good football.
However, it's not going to have 15-20 blue chip kids every year for Alabama and Auburn to split. There just isn't enough in the state for that.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:47 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Miami has 5 national championships
FSU has 3 national championships
See the problem here with your logic? They didn't win one 38 years ago and then not win another one. They have been able to keep doing it. Georgia hasn't.
You missed my point. My point is that Georgia has the natural advantages to go on a run like FSU did in the late 80s and 90s, just like FSU had all of those advantages before they started their run. It took the right coach to make it happen. Georgia has never had the right coach. For all of the good things Richt did, he always let elite in state talent get away. If Kirby can keep it home like he did this year, the "ceiling" changes. There is that much high school talent in Georgia, specifically Atlanta.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:47 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Due to your simplicity, I understand your inability to understand the basic concepts of a ceiling:
A ceiling can be an outlier.
A ceiling doesn't have to be constant.
A ceiling has nothing to do with the norm.
A ceiling can be an outlier.
A ceiling doesn't have to be constant.
A ceiling has nothing to do with the norm.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
My point is less about the athletes and more about coaching. Georgia has the best high school coaches in the south and it's been trending that way for around 10 years now. Not a Georgia fan by no means but the state really does have the best high school coaches
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