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re: If Kiffin stays in Oxford, it is a very telling statement on the current state of CFB.

Posted on 10/27/25 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
5689 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 5:52 pm to
Vandy has been good for the last two years. If that ain’t telling of a change in the state of cfb nothing is.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
684 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 6:35 pm to
College football powers were built on cheating aka paying players. Now that everyone can pay players it’s no shock that those who paid for decades are suddenly at a loss as to why their coaches aren’t legends anymore and that other teams can now win.

The entire landscape has changed. It’s the biggest shake up since integration. No one knows who the bluebloods are any more. Sure, Bama, UGA, and Ohio St are still winning due to their recruiting prowess, but give it time and money and their recruiting will come down as the middle tier’s recruiting moves up. GT signed its 1st ever 5 star player last cycle. He has openly said it would have been between Clemson or UGA if GT wasn’t able to give him NIL. That’s the story - players now have way more options than Tuscaloosa, Athens, Columbus, Austin, or Baton Rouge.

Schools who pay out the nose for a coach and then get pissed they go 9-3 or 8-4 deserve all the debt they will amass. Brian Kelly and Franklin are good coaches who won a lot of games. Whoever those schools hire will be in the hot seat from day 1 because those schools have unrealistic expectations.In a playoff system it’s a crapshoot unless you have a Jordan, Brady, or Mahomes.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 6:37 pm to
Since I am 1/2 rebel fan I really hope he does bro.
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
687 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

But if he truly aspires to championship greatness, he needs to do it somewhere where such things are frequently done.


Is that what Cignetti is doing?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67156 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Vandy has been good for the last two years. If that ain’t telling of a change in the state of cfb nothing is.


They went 7-6 last year.

They had two 9 win seasons under James Franklin.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67156 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:26 pm to
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If Kiffin stays in Oxford, it is a very telling statement on the current state of CFB.


Not really.

Maybe he just believes he's a good enough coach to win at Ole Miss.

Or maybe he doesn't want to move.

Or maybe he doesn't want more stress.

Or maybe he feels like LSU and Florida meddle too much.

There's a lot of reasons he could stay.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85447 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:32 pm to
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Is that what Cignetti is doing?


I agree that Ole Miss and Indiana are a good historical comparison. Indiana last won a conference championship in 1966 and of course the historians tell us Ole Miss won one in 1963. My question though, is has Cignetti won some hardware we aren't aware of? I mean I hope he does, and I wouldn't mind seeing y'all win one this year either-but don't you have to do it first?
Posted by Caesar74
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:45 am to
Texas, Florida, and LSU are not bluebloods.. they are second tier; never to rise above current position.
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5964 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:53 am to
A lot of people, especially older CFB fans, don't understand that CFB players generally don't play for the name on the jersey anymore. Tradition and prestige don't mean as much when a player's relationship with a football team is largely based around money - the relationship is no longer about pride and love, it's more transactional and materialistic now than its ever been.

Some people think that is a bad thing - I do not. It was always kinda bullshite that schools could make tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars off their student athletes and the athletes couldn't make a dime. The unfortunate thing for late-blooming powerhouse programs like Florida (largely irrelevant before Spurrier) and LSU (most of their success has occurred since Saban got there) is that they don't have the deep rich history (prior to 1990) of an Alabama to lean on. Now, they're having to compete harder than they ever have to stay on top and not get passed by teams like Ole Miss who is 1000% committed to Lane and 1000% committed to winning.

This is not to say that programs like that won't ever win again, because that's a stupid bet that I will not make. However, teams like Florida and LSU aren't going to be able to sleepwalk to a 9+ win season because teams like Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Missouri, etc. are now formidable opponents. Gone are the days when LSU and Florida could stack 5* talent three-deep on their bench while Ole Miss struggled to get a commitment from one Archie Manning's sons. Gone are the days when a sought-after coach like Lane Kiffin would ever consider staying long-term at Ole Miss when a job like Florida, LSU, or Auburn came calling. NIL, social media, and accessibility through the internet have made it where any team can compete at a high level for a long period of time if they just commit to doing so.

All this to say, I don't think Kiffin is going anywhere. Why would he leave a program that he built from the ground up that he has nearly complete autonomy to manage in a city where his entire family now lives and seems to love? Not to mention, he's winning ball games and has Ole Miss in the playoff hunt while LSU, Florida, and Auburn are all going to lose 4+ games and are entering rebuilds? Idk, I understand why other schools think they can get Kiffin, but that decision isn't going to come down to money, legacy, facilities, tradition, etc. like some people think it will.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 10:56 am
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