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re: If Christian McCaffrey doesn't win the Heisman, then we need to..

Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54828 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:22 am to
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Damn, that shocks me. I didn't think you had to even be literate in order to get accepted to either


An Alabama degree is worth more than an OM degree, you frickstick
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:24 am to
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Correct, but homers aren't rational.


I can't tell if you are trolling through all this or you really just believe Henry shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as McCaffry.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:24 am to
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A degree from the school whos football team I support


YOU can't support your family with an Ole Miss degree
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:25 am to
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Who is is better than Henry in the SEC? LF7 isn't. Who was the other?


Chubb is certainly better. LF7 leads Henry in every single stat minus total yardage and TDs. Henry has 2 more games played. LF7 leads YPC, yds/game, etc. If LF7 had Henrys carries he would be sitting at around 2,150 yards on the season.. against a tougher schedule that includes rushing against the Bama defense which Henry didn't have to face.

I mean Henry is averaging 5.86 ypc. That's not good. It's in the bottom half and maybe the bottom 3rd in the country. His stats come from having nearly 350 carries when most other RBs are in the 250-280 range.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 10:27 am
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24998 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:26 am to
His ypc is even worse when you consider how much holding Alabama is allowed to get away with, right bmy?
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2653 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:26 am to
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Christian McCaffrey wins every category a rational person would use to compare players Correct, but homers aren't rational.


So you think McCaffrey gets more yards against LSU than Henry did? Is that even possible?
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:27 am to
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Chubb is certainly better. LF7 leads Henry in every single stat minus total yardage and TDs. Henry has 2 more games played. LF7 leads YPC, yds/game, etc. If LF7 had Henrys carries he would be sitting at around 2,150 yards on the season.. and that includes rushing against the Bama defense which Henry didn't have to face.

I mean Henry is averaging 5.86 ypc. That's not good. It's in the bottom half and maybe the bottom 3rd in the country. His stats come from having nearly 350 carries when most other RBs are in the 250-280 range.


You would think that with all this knowledge easily accessible to the nearly 900 Heisman voters maybe Lf would have at least earned an invite to NYC. Weird how all those people disagree with you though. Really weird.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33040 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:28 am to
BMY never played football while growing up in Alabama.
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:29 am to
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An Alabama degree is worth more than an OM degree, you frickstick


Eh.....you're splitting hairs. Both are viewed as equally shitty.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:30 am to
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His ypc is even worse when you consider how much holding Alabama is allowed to get away with, right bmy?


Henrys ypc will be the lowest Heisman winning RB (if he wins the Heisman) since Eddie George in 1995. Frankly.. Ingram was the better back.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
6004 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:34 am to
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23 touchdowns >>> 13 touchdowns.

He'd probably have more than Henry if they didn't use their goal line fullback every time they're inside the ten.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24998 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:34 am to
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probably


quote:

if
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24998 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:36 am to
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Henrys ypc will be the lowest Heisman winning RB (if he wins the Heisman) since Eddie George in 1995. Frankly.. Ingram was the better back.



But that really doesn't matter since he's not competing against Heisman winners of the past. His competition is Watson and McCaffrey.

I have no issue with any of those 3 winning. All three have had great years.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29285 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:36 am to
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+1

I still love our boring style of football above all others.


If it works. I'm not so sure y'all would be happy if you were in LSU's shoes, and that's the way y'all were trending until you opened it up. Kiffin has saved y'all's program, IMO.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:37 am to
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You would think that with all this knowledge easily accessible to the nearly 900 Heisman voters maybe Lf would have at least earned an invite to NYC. Weird how all those people disagree with you though. Really weird.


49/50 states (ESPN polls) believed Oklahoma St had the better resume and was more deserving of the BCSCG spot over Alabama in 2011. We saw how that went.

LSU isn't in contention and that almost always disqualifies a player from winning the award. Plus, who says the Heisman has to go to the best RB in the country? It obviously doesn't or Henry wouldn't be invited. It's a hype award.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54828 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:37 am to
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He'd probably have more than Henry if they didn't use their goal line fullback every time they're inside the ten


He shouldn't get stopped short of the goal line. Henry would've scored on most of the plays Mccaffrey was stopped short on.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:37 am to
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So you think McCaffrey gets more yards against LSU than Henry did? Is that even possible?


Could be

Would Henry get over 300 yds vs UCS?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:38 am to
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But that really doesn't matter since he's not competing against Heisman winners of the past. His competition is Watson and McCaffrey.


That's true. but it's also true that he has had a historically bad year for a Heisman contending RB.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:41 am to
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He shouldn't get stopped short of the goal line. Henry would've scored on most of the plays Mccaffrey was stopped short on.


This is probably true. I think McCaffrey is an MVP type player but I don't think he's that amazing of a RB. Neither Henry or McCaffrey are on the level of guys like LF7, Chubb, or Cook.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:45 am to
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49/50 states (ESPN polls) believed Oklahoma St had the better resume and was more deserving of the BCSCG spot over Alabama in 2011. We saw how that went


When will the LSU fans ever get over 2011? It is getting really sad.
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