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re: if 16 are teams are inevitable

Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:47 am to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:47 am to
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Indfanfromcol


You completely miss the point.

Alabama would play the FIRST PLACE TEAMS from each of the other divisions.

Mississippi State would play the SECOND PLACE teams from each of the other divisions.

Ole Miss would play the THIRD PLACE teams from each of the other divisions.

Arkansas would play the LAST PLACE teams from each of the other divisions.

Under my proposal, Alabama would play:

Auburn
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Georgia
LSU
Vanderbilt
Tennessee

and one other opponent

the following season, their schedule would be determined based on how they finished within their own division.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 11:49 am
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:48 am to
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Alabama
Florida
Georgia
LSU


That is a brand new conference.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:49 am to
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I'm a history major at VPI


Shocked (although I don't believe you). Figured you for a night stocker at Wal-Mart.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14773 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:50 am to
In that case, you are eliminating the Alabama vs UT game, which is the only reason we even still have permanent rivals in the SEC.
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:50 am to
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Figured you for a night stocker at Wal-Mart.

Close.

I moonlight as a cashier at K-Mart
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46299 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:50 am to
I think you will actually have teams tanking games at the end of the season for an easier schedule the following year in this scenario. Esp if a team is young and has a lot of returning starters.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:51 am to
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Alabama-Auburn


Interdivisional

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Alabama-Tennessee


Already covered

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Arkansas-Missouri
Arkansas-LSU
Arkansas-Texas A&M


All interdivisional

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Auburn-Georgia


Already covered

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Auburn-Florida
no

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Florida-Georgia


Interdivisional

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Florida-Tennessee
No. Each team gets ONE permanent cross-div if they so choose.

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Georgia-South Carolina


Interdivisional

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Kentucky-Tennessee


Interdivisional

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LSU-Ole Miss


Can work with

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LSU-Mississippi State


No

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LSU-Texas A&M


Interdivisional

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Mississippi State-Ole Miss


Interdivisional

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Tennessee-Vanderbilt


Interdivisional
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3803 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:52 am to
Been saying for a while now the pods need to be balanced as much as possible while trying to keep rivalries intact. Basically try to come up with four #1 seeds and separate them and four #4 seeds and separate them as well. I would think the top 4 seeds based on history and potential would be Alabama, UF, LSU and UGA. The bottom 4 would probably be Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy and Kentucky (though this is debatable as some would argue Missouri belongs here)....Then of course four 2 seeds and four 3 seeds.


Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, Miss St

LSU, A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss

UGA, Tennessee, Va Tech, Vandy

Florida, S Carolina, N Caolina, Kentucky

I think putting Florida and UGA in the same pod would make that pod too top heavy. Better to have them scheduled as yearly cross overs (same with Ole Miss and Miss St).

Admittedly there may be issues that I haven't taken into account with other rivalries....

Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:52 am to
New plan - the Big 6:

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Tennessee

Leave the conference, and take South Carolina, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M with them. Pick up UNC, take back the name "Southern Conference", and tell the NCAA they can frick off.

9-game round robin schedule.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 11:53 am
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16130 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:52 am to
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3 permanent cross div games means it would take 6 years to home/home everyone in conference, while no permanent games takes four years.


Or you use the 3 permanent cross divisional games (which you would actually only be playing two outside of your temporary division) and not do home and home in back to back years. You would play the home and home every 3 years (except for your permanent rivals & pod teams which would be in back to back years).
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:52 am to
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I think you will actually have teams tanking games at the end of the season for an easier schedule the following year in this scenario. Esp if a team is young and has a lot of returning starters.


If they do that, they will lose recruits. This isn't the NFL where they can get a better draft position.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46299 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:53 am to
It isn't a terrible thing to play your rival outside of conference play. We have had to do it for years now and it hasn't softened the rivalry one bit. Everyone will have to make concessions for it to work, so I am sure UF will have to give up at least one of Uga and UT. Since I hate them both, I really don't care.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46299 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:54 am to
No they won't. FSU has had a crap schedule forever and they recruit lights out.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:54 am to
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No they won't. FSU has had a crap schedule forever and they recruit lights out.


Do they deliberately tank games to improve their schedule?

Do you think a coach would tank games to ensure he gets fired?
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 11:56 am
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14773 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:56 am to
No one cares if Florida would give up their permanent rivals. We have to get everything approved through Bama.

And a division with Bama, auburn, Tennessee, would suck unless you put florida or uga in it.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46299 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:57 am to
Who knows what those jackasses do. No one is going to say they are tanking a game. I don't believe your way is prudent or feasible. They will not wait until 8 months prior to the season to set the schedule.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14773 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:59 am to
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Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, Miss St

LSU, A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss

UGA, Tennessee, Va Tech, Vandy

Florida, S Carolina, N Caolina, Kentucky



This may be one of the best ones yet. Only problem is if UGA is willing to give up playing UF and South Carolina ever year.

Since we have no rivals, of course I shouldn't comment.
However, wouldn't it make it interesting if there were none, and say after a 2 or 4 year break, UGA and UF came together to play each other again?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46299 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:59 am to
We aren't inviting LSU to the negotiating table anyway because you would bitch about any schedule put forth. You have no rivals, so you have no concessions to give.

That would be fine with me. If we want to play Uga then we can drop FSU and make it happen.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12438 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:59 am to
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Or you use the 3 permanent cross divisional games (which you would actually only be playing two outside of your temporary division) and not do home and home in back to back years. You would play the home and home every 3 years (except for your permanent rivals & pod teams which would be in back to back years).


I like that better than taking so long to play everyone.

I wonder how the voting for all this will go, as there will be 16 votes now, and these newer teams don't have any reason to get stuck with permanent cross pod rivals they don't like. Bama/Auburn/UGA/Tenn will see their voting block diminsh in power.
This post was edited on 3/29/13 at 12:00 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/29/13 at 12:00 pm to
Division 1: Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M

This is the only one everyone agrees on

Division 2: Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, (Virginia School)

Division 3: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State

Division 4: Florida, Georgia, (North Carolina School), South Carolina

Permanent cross: Alabama-Tennessee, Auburn-Georgia, LSU-Ole Miss, (North Carolina School)-(Virginia School)
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