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re: Idea for balancing college football

Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:59 pm to
Baseball gets 10 more. Probably would have to give 10 to women's soccer.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Setup a system for student athletes to be paid each year, and the worse your team ranks in your division the more you are allowed to pay.



We already outspend Ole Miss to oblivion. Do this and you guys may as well quit and focus on baseball.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:03 pm to
Thank Auburn High School for that...you were all for Reuben before he signed with The King
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:03 pm to
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Baseball gets 10 more. Probably would have to give 10 to women's soccer.



You're not very good at math, are you? You would then have 20 more women's scholarships than men's. You just subtracted 10 from the men's total and added them to the women's.



This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:04 pm to
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Idea for balancing college football

Get good.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:05 pm to
Hire a good coach
Posted by 285exp
Mobile, Al
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:10 pm to
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If this is happening, then "tutors" need to go also. Bama has a whole office set up to do school work for its college players. Reuben Foster literally reads on a 5th grade level, yet he spent 3 years in college classes.


The Auburn tattoo sucked 30pts off his IQ
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:21 pm to
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That wouldn't change much about the teams running the show. Bama's GSR is 93.

We shouldn't count fake degrees and fixed numbers.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:27 pm to
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Thank Auburn High School for that.


It was smart for Saban to send him there. AHS let someone else take the ACT for him so he could even go to college.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:32 pm to
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balancing college football

1. FBS is too large. 130+ teams is ridiculous. Cut it to 65 (current P5+ND) to 80 max ( the latter would allow for 5 x 16 team conferences) for a start and the playing field begins to level through more equal competition. No Independents and conferences have to be at least 12 teams.

2. Reduce scholarships. This is easiest and best means to spread talent to more schools. Although, it is the least acceptable for society due to impact on opportunity for student-athletes.

3. Reduce bowl games to make the post season of any sort more valuable, again. Making the regular season mean something for those with no real NC hopes could improve effort and drive to simply make a bowl. 16 bowls tops, not including playoffs.

4. Play a 12 game schedule. 10 x conference games and 2 x OOC game. Best two teams play in CCG, no divisions. CFP poll position is final tie breaker. This improves quality of scheduling across the league.

5. Playoff expansion capped at 6 teams. Reintroduce a BCS computer component to polls to better account for SOS/SOR but retain the CFP committee to replace the weight of Harris and Coaches Polls in the final formula. #1 and 2 seeds get byes. No auto bids.

6. There are no bowl tie ins. highest ranked match ups from 7 vs 8 to 37 vs 38 play in the bowls. The bowl hierarchies can rotate the matchups each year.

7. Recruits get unlimited official visits, but no more than once to the same school. Return visits are on the kids dime.

8. NCAA funds travel, lodging: 3 day/2xnight, tkts and per diem for 2 x guests per athlete once per regular season and once per post Season game.

9. NCAA distributions and conference distributions are tiered to payout incrementally higher from lowest performing quartile to the highest performing quartile.

10. Bowl teams retain expense plus a performance incentive to further reward the post season. Bowls pay winners more than losers.

11. NCAA pays a stipend to all bowl team student-athlete participants.

12. Outside of 3-5, do none of the above. I don't care about parity in the grand scheme as all efforts over a century have only proven temporary and the elite teams ultimately seperate themselves from the herd again. We are a capitalist nation at heart. The more restrictions we put in place for "fairness" the worse the product gets and the more teams choose to break the rules. Just play. Win some, lose some, and enjoy the sport even if you have to pull for the perpetual losers. It makes the big wins mean more along the way.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:34 pm to
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If this is happening, then "tutors" need to go also. Bama has a whole office set up to do school work for its college players. Reuben Foster literally reads on a 5th grade level, yet he spent 3 years in college classes.


All universities offer remedial classes. I don't see the problem.

Reuben reportedly scored a 9 on the Wonderlic. That's better than Mo Claiborne, Vince Young, Frank Gore, Kenny Irons, Terrell Prior, Chris Leak, and many others.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:46 pm to
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tutors" need to go

EVERY univeristy has a student-athlete academic support center with tutoring and academic adjustment assistance. Most every school also offers free tutoring through student services or the individual colleges to ALL students.

You can guarantee AU had an academic plan in mind to assist Foster as well had he stuck with AU. At least Reuben showed up to fall asleep at his desk, the AU plan of years past didn't even require that level of effort. NY Times: AU Athletes get top grades with no class

P.S. and slightly off topic: does AU still offer "Corn" as a class?
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7495 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:54 pm to
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Exactly. Don't people understand that this means that less kids will get an opportunity at a scholarship and to further their education?


If minor league football existed, how many would still go to college? 50%?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:59 pm to
85-65 is 20. What am I missing?

ETA

Women would be plus 10?
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:13 pm to
I can solve all this “balancing college football” and “even the playing field for all teams” with just one change......

GET BETTER
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41178 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:20 pm to
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4. Play a 12 game schedule. 10 x conference games and 2 x OOC game. Best two teams play in CCG, no divisions. CFP poll position is final tie breaker. This improves quality of scheduling across the league.


Unintended consequence it would destroy the G5, they need those P5 paychecks.

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8. NCAA funds travel, lodging: 3 day/2xnight, tkts and per diem for 2 x guests per athlete once per regular season and once per post Season game.

9. NCAA distributions and conference distributions are tiered to payout incrementally higher from lowest performing quartile to the highest performing quartile.


The only football revenue the NCAA gets is at the FCS series, you can't take that.

125 FCS teams and roughly another 60 FBS teams (Group of 5) would be financially incapable of fielding teams within a few years. None are in the black as is.
Posted by Oswald31
Member since Mar 2019
311 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:21 pm to
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And more access to recruits based in gradation numbers


Lol, the sec would be so fricked...
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:47 pm to
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Unintended consequence it would destroy the G5, they need those P5 paychecks.


No, because I cut G5 out in step one. They go to FCS or a new level of play. Can be full 32 team playoff if they want and garner more revenue for distribution.

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The only football revenue the NCAA gets is at the FCS series, you can't take that.

125 FCS teams and roughly another 60 FBS teams (Group of 5) would be financially incapable of fielding teams within a few years. None are in the black as is.


True, but the NCAA generates over a billion a year annually. The majority (850+ million) from basketball tournament and marketing. Those monies are redistributed to universities in a variety of ways. Carving out a sufficient amount to pay the FBS players is achievable.

If nothing else, it could be tagged onto bowl costs for post season portion and become an expense to the school paid for our of the bowl marketing monies. The conferences could also pony up for the in season expense of family travel.

And, again, I'm not truly concerned with propping up small school sports to be financially solvent. They can figure out a means or close their programs. DII and DII and below have similar issues.

I am about improving the quality and sustainability of CFB. FBS is where money is made and where the sport survives (outside of youth leagues and HS of course). Focus should remain there on initiatives to enhance the game at the FBS level.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:50 pm to
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based on gradation numbers


Not looking like this will help the arky cause
Posted by 285exp
Mobile, Al
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 7:29 pm to
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If minor league football existed, how many would still go to college? 50%?


If minor league football existed, would anybody watch? If so, why hasn’t some financial genius started one? No highly ranked college prospect is going to give up playing for an elite college program to make minor league money to play in minor league stadiums in front of minor league crowds.
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