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I saw ESPN's SEC Blog Twitter Account in the middle of the 2nd half...

Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:00 am
Posted by GFunk
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:00 am
Tweeting that the Alabama staff had expressed to them at some point in the period between Fall camp and this game (didn't specify when) that their Secondary was the more vulnerable part of the defense.

I just don't see Georgia-and especially not UF-having what it takes to beat this team through the air. For that matter, I see only the Ducks of Oregon as being able to put a dent into this defense as it stands now.

But do the Bama Fans here have any concern regarding the way the Secondary executed against what was heretofore a rather pedestrian-if not outright sub-par-LSU passing game Saturday?
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:04 am to
Mettenberger made some fine throws. It felt like Garcia and usce from 2010 when they just made clutch play after clutch play especially on third down.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:04 am to
LSU kept us in our base 4-3. Oregon against our nickel with CJ Mosley on the field will also struggle. LSU is the only team I think could force Alabama into playing with so many in the box as they did. Everyone else is gonna get a 5-6 man front with a safety/lb hybrid watching the run.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:05 am to
Our secondary is hit or miss. Saturday night we were way off and Mett took advantage of it. I think that the only team capable of beating Alabama was LSU. Georgia is not even in the same universe as LSU, but stranger things have happened.

We still have a tough test against A&M next, I'm going to worry about that.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:06 am to
1. The secondary was always a bit of a concern for me. I trusted milliner and Lester but the rest was very unproven. 2. LSUs offense and the QB especially played easily the best game they have all year. The bye clearly helped as some of our guys said y'all showed stuff they hadn't seen before.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:06 am to
I'll be honest and say that I'm more than a little nervous about the game against TAMU this Saturday.

They might carve us up after watching Mettenburger do it.
Posted by RMFTBama
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:06 am to
Oregon has a tremendous offense, but it's based largely on their running game. Their passing attack is average.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:07 am to
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our base 4-3


Does not compute.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Tweeting that the Alabama staff had expressed to them at some point in the period between Fall camp and this game (didn't specify when) that their Secondary was the more vulnerable part of the defense.


I think this is why a lot of Bama fans felt let down that Tyler didnt play and Johnelle tanked the season prior to our game early in the year.

The Bama fans on here at least, knew that the secondary may be their weakest link and they talked as if they wanted to see it tested.

So it is no surprise that the Bama coaching staff may have thought the same. It really isnt Bama's fault that their secondary had not been tested this season.

This is just something else we can blame on Johnelle if you all are cool with it
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:09 am to
quote:

But do the Bama Fans here have any concern regarding the way the Secondary executed against what was heretofore a rather pedestrian-if not outright sub-par-LSU passing game Saturday?



subpar? that was the best passing game LSU has had since Matt Flynn
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:10 am to
Our secondary is our weakest link, specifically, our lack of depth at CB which is causing us to play safeties in place of CB's in some packages. And, I'm not that high on some of those safeties.

That said, our weakest link is still better than 90% of other teams' secondaries.

And, don't take away from what LSU did. If your offensive line hadn't held up so well, the rushers would have gotten to the the QB before he could pick on those guys. And Mett threw the ball well and made good decisions.
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:12 am to
A lot of Bama fans already realized that the secondary was a little shaky this year (relatively speaking, they are still pretty good, but not really elite in coverage skills). What happened Saturday night was a combination of Mettenberger playing a hell of a game (did the light come on for good or was this one of those singular games QBs have sometimes ala Garcia against Bama in 2010?) and also Alabama's secondary showing that it has some issues.

It's not like Alabama's defense, even the pass defense, is bad. They certainly bent on Saturday but did not break in a hostile environment with very little help from the Bama offense in the second half. They were on the field all night and still only gave up 17 points. If that is an off night for the defense, then I'll take it. A lot of teams would absolutely kill for their defense to only give up 17 on the road in a game like that when the opposing QB is definitely on his game.

They are not one of the GOAT defenses like last year, but they are still among the best if not the best in the country again.
Posted by GFunk
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:17 am to
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GFunk
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what was heretofore a rather pedestrian-if not outright sub-par-LSU passing game Saturday?


quote:

SECSolomonGrundy


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subpar? that was the best passing game LSU has had since Matt Flynn


Since the King's English is evidently a challenge for you...

Do you know what the word heretofore means, Brosef? Lemme help...
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:22 am to
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Since the King's English is evidently a challenge for you


no, my challenge is in following your logic. you say that Bama had trouble with a "heretofore" subpar passing offense. But Bama didnt play a subpar passing offense. they played a pretty damn good one from what I saw. Mettenberger played lights out. It doesnt matter what they've done heretofore. They were good on Saturday night
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:33 am to
LSU also did stuff that the Alabama secondary hadn't seen LSU do before. Someone on the radio said that, before the game in Tiger Stadium Saturday night, LSU had not run play action fakes. They did play action all freaking night.

Posted by GFunk
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:36 am to
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SECSolomonGrundy
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no, my challenge is in following your logic. you say that Bama had trouble with a "heretofore" subpar passing offense. But Bama didnt play a subpar passing offense. they played a pretty damn good one from what I saw. Mettenberger played lights out. It doesnt matter what they've done heretofore. They were good on Saturday night


No bro...Your challenge is still reading. Your Clintonian efforts at parsing my quite simple post notwithstanding, you're coming off as pretty stupid here.

Everyone knows they played well Saturday Night. We are not arguing the merits of their play. What is the topic of discussion is that in light of the way LSU played-which was a vast, spectacular improvement-against your Secondary, do you think that your Secondary should be a cause for concern.

IE-Did your Secondary have a hand in making the LSU Pass offense look better than it had all year?

I can keep going on this if you'd like to use some more Clintonian logic here, but once we get to the point where you're trying to define my impersonal pronouns we'll probably hit a wall.

Either way, your turn, Webster...
Posted by GFunk
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:39 am to
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RollTide1987
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LSU also did stuff that the Alabama secondary hadn't seen LSU do before. Someone on the radio said that, before the game in Tiger Stadium Saturday night, LSU had not run play action fakes. They did play action all freaking night.


The PA pass was a direct result of Bama at times not stacking the box. LSU hasn't run PA passes simply because we've already typically had 8 men in the box already.

As explained to me succinctly, what good is a PA pass against a stacked box? Everyone's already committing to the run presnap already?

Now, the rollouts, moving pocket stuff, throws on the run, & the middle and short throws to the Tight End? That's some new wrinkles. Makes one wonder where they were.

But then again, those throws were to Nic Jacobs whose a RS Freshman. We may not have really had him at a point from a scheme grasp perspective where we could count on him in the passing game.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:46 am to
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do you think that your Secondary should be a cause for concern.


it was already the most inexperienced group, so it was already a concern. But credit needs to be given to LSU because they executed very well.

when you try to downplay LSU's success to use it as a flame against Bama, you are just shitting on the effort that your team gave.
Posted by GFunk
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:49 am to
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SECSolomonGrundy
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when you try to downplay LSU's success to use it as a flame against Bama, you are just shitting on the effort that your team gave.


I'm not downplaying anything. I'm asking a question of a separate fanbase. I have my own personal opinion and its fueled by facts, data & outside opinion that confirms my own.

I'm simply asking an opposing fanbase-whose view & perspective I respect regarding the matter-how they view a certain aspect of their team.

First you show off your lack of reading comprehension. Now you're creating straw-man arguments, attributing them to me in a weak attempt at reverse-flaming me.

Dude how many times will you let yourself get owned in a single thread before you just give it up?
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 8:59 am to
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Now you're creating straw-man arguments, attributing them to me in a weak attempt at reverse-flaming me.


wrong again, my friend. why dont you try using that google link to help yourself understand what a straw man argument is. You are the poster who said that LSU's passing game was Subpar and asked whether Bama fans were concerned that LSU had some success. Do you realize how disrespectful you are being to your team and the effort they gave? They played a great game, give them some credit.

i know you're just trying to flame and make yourself feel better this morning. but get some better material, your shite's weak.

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