re: I guess it's Mizzou's week coming up. Unflattering OTL out

From Mizzou response:

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"Once the decision was made to seek treatment in Boston, following the stay in Kansas City, Meghan was consulted again, and Sasha and her family made the final decision to withdraw her from her courses.

This decision was made with Sasha's best interest in mind to protect her academic future and allow her to return to Mizzou when ready. Had this step not been taken, under the circumstances she was at serious risk of failing academically and being unable to return at a later time. At the very least, it would have been very difficult for Sasha to return had this step not been taken, and her athletic eligibility might have been in serious jeopardy."

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Your motive for being here is transparent. Enjoy your trolling.

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Way to try and deflect. I have worked with survivors in the past dumbass and this is no troll. Grow the f*ck up.

The swim coach and the Athletic Department are the ones who look like fools here. Swim coach has no clue what his swimmers are doing out of the pool. Or the Athletic Department lied to him.

Moye was a 4 star bust. The HCGP would have dropped him like a 2 foot putt if he got wind of this before Moye left. I have a problem with the way HCGP coaches but not the way he handles off field problems.

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After re-reading the article, I do find the presentation of the University Withdrawal form very strange. I'm not saying Missouri did anything wrong, but it's a curious timing.

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They were talking with her parents, who doubtless decided it was best for her to withdraw. If my child attempted suicide, I'd withdraw them too. And the timing, in April, means they may have been butting up to the deadline to withdraw that semester.

Mizzou's response letters indicate that the withdrawal was so that she could preserve her academic standing. If she didn't withdraw, she would have failed her classes, which would have made her ineligible to return once she worked things out. My understanding is that the academic calendar is final, no exceptions. I don't know, but it's a scenario that makes some sense to me.

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The swim coach and the Athletic Department are the ones who look like fools here. Swim coach has no clue what his swimmers are doing out of the pool.

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That swim coach was new when this all occurred - he was not the coach that recruited her. So it's not as surprising he didn't know her extremely well yet.

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Moye was a 4 star bust. The HCGP would have dropped him like a 2 foot putt if he got wind of this before Moye left.

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Truth. Especially with the Derrick Washington stuff going on at the same time. There would have been no hesitation.

As far as Rolandis Woodland, didn't he say she did not want to pursue it? That's probably why he confronted one of the players himself but didn't go to the coaches.

Lastly - Cheese Grits, in looking at your timeline, I think you're taking the ESPN report at face value. Look at Mizzou's responses. No one in the athletic dept knew of this allegation before her death. Or, if anyone in the athletic dept did know about this before her death, they did not report it. If that's the case, that person or people should be fired. But you can't hold the university responsible for what it did not know. By the few accounts available, she did not want to pursue it. Her parents did not even know - if they had, certainly they would have said something during her difficulties and suicide attempt.

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No offense but you didn't hesitate to jump to conclusions when Jameis was accused of rape.

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No offense, but you have a reading comprehension problem.

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Which was my point. Usually when you are on a 3 day hold you have no legal capacity to sign certain documents. A patient could say refuse treatment - at which time the health care facility may force administer - but signing a non medical document - like a release from school - may be unenforcible or void. Usually a competent 3rd party in her family - vis next of kin, designated surrogate, or PoA - would have to sing for her.

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And as it was already shown to you, her parents were involved in the decision.

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No, but from what has been presented it was not singular assault - like possibly date rape - but 3 persons in the assault. Look at the Vandy case this past season a similar and look at how fast the response was (and how swift) by the University as a whole.

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The alleged victim said nothing about a three person assault.

This is her words...

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"[We] were falling asleep & then i heard the [door] open & some other guy walked in & locked the door & i couldnt really see who it was & i never saw a face the whole time.... but i remember just sitting upright in bed at the sound of someone walking in. & i just remember feeling really scared thinking that the two guys had planned this or something. so my first thought was figure out who this other person was in case so that if i needed the informaton i would have it later... the guy told me his name & then he pulled down his pants & put on a condom & just knew i was screwed ..."

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"… I started to panick & as i still on the phone trying to reach one of them tears start going down & the guy just lift up my dress & next thing i knew he inserts from behind. by that point tears were falling more but i wasnt loud & didnt anything. and then i just snapped and kind pushed him away & yelled no! and then he just left."

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I know why she needed the University Withdrawal. It was of course the right thing for her. It is just the situation under which she signed it. A 3 day psyche evaluation (I'm assuming that's what it was, could be wrong) is a rather serious step. I am just surprised that she would be allowed to sign a legal document during that.

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While it is a legal document, I'm sure it's the only standard form available for the situation. The only time I could see her condition coming into account as to the legitimacy of the legal document is if, for some reason, she decided she wanted to stay enrolled and fail classes as well as lose that bit of athletic eligibility.

In the reality of the situation as it was known at the time of the signing, people were making efforts to facilitate actions in her best interests as far as withdrawing her from school.

I don't see why her mental condition would make a difference at all unless some suit comes up claiming damages stemming from her withdrawal or the school decided they wanted to keep her enrolled. Other than that, it's just a form that allowed her withdrawal from school to avoid the consequences of not withdrawing.

Nobody knew a story and potential legalities were involved, it was just a form that needed to be signed to avoid the consequences of staying enrolled in given the circumstances.

Mizz is on FIRE this week. I never really thought you guys belonged in the SEC until now.

Welcome my brothers