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re: I, for one, would like to welcome Indiana to the elite club

Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Let's include men's and women's outdoor track on that...


Arkansas
Florida

Sounds good to me.

Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5398 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:37 pm to
Now make a list of sports people care about that actually takes skill.

Football and baseball since 1960

- Southern California (USC)
- Texas
- Michigan
- Ohio State
- LSU
- Miami
- Florida
- Minnesota
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
5492 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:37 pm to
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If you swap baseball and basketball LSU is in there too


IF your uncle had balls he would be just like you MOM
Posted by HClassof84
Member since Feb 2025
412 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:46 pm to
You still clinging to that natty when Texas beat yo' arse in the bowl game?

Of all the titles 'Bama has won, that's just lame dude.

The vote was such a huge mistake, it was the last year AP/UPI awarded a title before the bowl games. That's exactly how bad it was. Claim all you want, that just makes you an imposter. Deal.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 10:49 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39380 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:52 pm to
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You still clinging to that natty when Texas beat yo' arse in the bowl game?

Of all the titles 'Bama has won, that's just lame dude.

The vote was such a huge mistake, it was the last year AP/UPI awarded a title before the bowl games. That's exactly how bad it was. Claim all you want, that just make you an imposter. Deal.


Bowl games did not count in 1964. The national championship was awarded a full month before the bowl games. Teams had already celebrated over Christmas and every thing else.

Now 60 years later you want to be like - oh yeah, that game totally counted.

The FWIW was literally 5 people who voted anonymously for the main agenda of trying to pretend bowl games should count.

It's nothing personal to Arkansas, and I don't mind split titles during the poll years, so it has nothing to do with anything other than the fact that it's not historically accurate.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14985 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:04 pm to
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If you swap baseball and basketball LSU is in there too


If you leave basketball and baseball in the list Florida is still there
Posted by HClassof84
Member since Feb 2025
412 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:05 pm to
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The national championship was awarded a full month before the bowl games


An in-year #1 poll has the same validity as a preseason #1 poll. I think you should claim several more given the number of times you were #1 in preseason polls.

Do it. You've earned the votes.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39380 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:18 pm to
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An in-year #1 poll has the same validity as a preseason #1 poll. I think you should claim several more given the number of times you were #1 in preseason polls.

Do it. You've earned the votes.


That happened a total of 2 times before the BCS era.

1966 was the first time, Alabama went undefeated and finished #3 behind Notre Dame and Michigan St who tied each other in a game, and neither of them played in a bowl game. Alabama had won 2 national championships in a row and they didn't want them to have 3.

Alabama doesn't claim it because Alabama didn't win it. It sucks arse, but that is what happened.

And then in 1978, Alabama also finished #1.

They did damn near everything they could to keep Alabama from winning national championships. The entire reason the bowl games started to count was to keep Alabama from winning them.

Because in 1965 they decided to count bowl games. But then Alabama won the NC again that year because of the bowl games. Arkansas could have been the national champion that year, but you lost your bowl game. You wouldn't have won before because Michigan St was #1. Michigan St lost, Arkansas was #2, but you lost. #3 Nebraska lost to #4 Alabama.

And the in 1966, they went back to bowl games not counting again.

This idea Alabama got some kind of preferential bias in the polls is just way off history.

I like Arkansas, especially after 4th and 25. But this is the actual history.

If you want to point at Alabama and a fake claim, point to 1941. It's a bullshite claim and Alabama should drop it.



This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2407 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:25 am to
This Buckeye thanks you!
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3268 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:03 am to
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That happened a total of 2 times before the BCS era.

1966 was the first time, Alabama went undefeated and finished #3 behind Notre Dame and Michigan St who tied each other in a game, and neither of them played in a bowl game. Alabama had won 2 national championships in a row and they didn't want them to have 3.

Alabama doesn't claim it because Alabama didn't win it. It sucks arse, but that is what happened.

And then in 1978, Alabama also finished #1.

They did damn near everything they could to keep Alabama from winning national championships. The entire reason the bowl games started to count was to keep Alabama from winning them.

Because in 1965 they decided to count bowl games. But then Alabama won the NC again that year because of the bowl games. Arkansas could have been the national champion that year, but you lost your bowl game. You wouldn't have won before because Michigan St was #1. Michigan St lost, Arkansas was #2, but you lost. #3 Nebraska lost to #4 Alabama.

And the in 1966, they went back to bowl games not counting again.

This idea Alabama got some kind of preferential bias in the polls is just way off history.

I like Arkansas, especially after 4th and 25. But this is the actual history.

If you want to point at Alabama and a fake claim, point to 1941. It's a bullshite claim and Alabama should drop it.


We do need to thank Bama for getting the coaches to start doing an after bowl vote for the NC.

After 1973... when Bama beat the coaches' champion (Notre Dame)... just a few years after Notre Dame had beaten the coaches' champion (Texas)... the coaches decided to move to an after bowl championship to keep from continuing to be embarrassed by the results of the bowl games..
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32685 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:10 am to
That’s ok. Added 2 more this decade.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3268 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:10 am to
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Now make a list of sports people care about that actually takes skill.

Football and baseball since 1960

- Southern California (USC)
- Texas
- Michigan
- Ohio State
- LSU
- Miami
- Florida
- Minnesota


It also takes "skill" to come up with an accurate list...

Yours is missing Tennessee and Oklahoma.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8933 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:13 am to
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Arkansas Nope.


Yup
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8933 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:20 am to
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I like Arkansas, especially after 4th and 25. But this is the actual history.


Actual history is Arkansas went undefeated while Bama lost to a Texas team that we beat.

While we were robbed of the AP and coaches poll, the FWAA was a legitimate poll at the time that awarded Arkansas the national title. It’s not a made up UCF style claim or a revisionist history view





Bama of course has a legit clam to it in’64, but if we’re being honest the results on the field make it clear who deserved it more that season
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 7:23 am
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
2184 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:51 am to
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Arkansas Nope.


Yup


No. They were declared champs by the FWAA & NFF. Most people only count AP/UPI (coaches poll). Sorry
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8933 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 7:57 am to
Not true for the era. FWAA was legit
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39380 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:11 pm to
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Actual history is Arkansas went undefeated while Bama lost to a Texas team that we beat.

While we were robbed of the AP and coaches poll, the FWAA was a legitimate poll at the time that awarded Arkansas the national title. It’s not a made up UCF style claim or a revisionist history view



Bowl games did not count in 1964. So it doesn't matter what happened in a bowl game.

They did matter in 1965, and Arkansas could have been a national champion that year, but you lost your bowl game to LSU.

The FWAA is a joke, it was never a legitimate poll and nobody ever considered it to be. It had 5 voters who voted anonymously and their entire agenda was trying to make bowl games count.

From 1936-1998, the only legitimate claims are AP and Coaches polls.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39380 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:14 pm to
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Not true for the era. FWAA was legit


Nobody claimed them because they weren't legit. It was 5 voters, that's all. They voted in secret and their entire agenda was to be different than the AP/Coaches and try to force the bowl games into having meaning.

Ole Miss won one in 1960. They didn't start claiming it until like 2012.

Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6904 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:26 pm to
That's nice, but you saying Arkansas 1964 doesn't count while getting mad that people don't like your 1942 claim still makes you a hypocritical baby.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6904 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 2:27 pm to
Ohio State claims a year based on the FWAA for what it's worth.
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