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re: I Don't Think It's Bielema... I Really Don't
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:27 pm to Quicksilver
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:27 pm to Quicksilver
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Hugh Freeze inherited one of, if not the worst SEC teams since 2000 and immediately got to a bowl game and began 7-0 in year 3. What's Bert's excuse?
Bert doesnt put athletes on the payroll, he puts them on the honor roll
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:27 pm to Sao
Yall still suck just face reality my man and move on
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:28 pm to Quicksilver
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Hugh Freeze inherited one of, if not the worst SEC teams since 2000 and immediately got to a bowl game and began 7-0 in year 3. What's Bert's excuse?
I'd like to see the two rosters compared to each other along with comparing the SEC's climate being harder or easier compared to now
of course transitive property doesn't apply to college football, so your point is mute
but I'll still offer an answer
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Bielema's first class doesn't count. didn't have time to establish relationships with recruits.
so two classes plus past classes being decimated = our current lack of depth
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Arkansas 2011 Recruiting Class
33 Commits
7 Players still on the team
Arkansas 2012 Recruiting Class
24 Commits
7 Players still on the team
plus injuries
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:32 pm to lefty08
In all honesty, there really hasn't been a "foundation" to build on in a long time.
In SEC games, since Arkansas joined the conference:
Joe Kines 3-4-1
Danny Ford 16-24-1
Houston Nutt 42-38
Bobby Petrino 17-15
John L Smith 2-6
Bret Beilema 2-15
82-102-2
In SEC games, since Arkansas joined the conference:
Joe Kines 3-4-1
Danny Ford 16-24-1
Houston Nutt 42-38
Bobby Petrino 17-15
John L Smith 2-6
Bret Beilema 2-15
82-102-2
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:37 pm to GeorgeReymond
So is it simply sustaining a consistency? Your stats show a fracturing since Hatfield basically. Fracturing in soo soo many ways and for soo soo many reasons.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:37 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Your state is underpopulated and very white. Therein lies most of your problem.
Arkansas and Tennessee are both above the national average in minority populations (almost the exact same)
Mississippi is about to be smaller than Arkansas.
Tennessee has twice the population of Arkansas or Mississippi.
Yet in the past 10 years Arkansas has had the overall best records and rankings. I know, everyone hates facts when it doesn't suit their statement.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:37 pm to Sao
Its the same reasons why every mediocre program never ascends to the elite hardware. Recruiting, money, location, prior success, players in the NFL.
Programs at the likes of , Fayetteville, Starkville, and Oxford(until recently somewhat), etc are not very appealing programs. Not a big support base, havent finished at the top of CFB in recent years, not alot of players going into the NFL, less benefits for the player. Not a lot of spotlight.
Now, every situation is different and that doesn't mean the little guy can't compete or doesnt have a quality program. Its just hard to maintain. One of the reasons why I think Dan Mullen is one of the best coaches in football.
Programs at the likes of , Fayetteville, Starkville, and Oxford(until recently somewhat), etc are not very appealing programs. Not a big support base, havent finished at the top of CFB in recent years, not alot of players going into the NFL, less benefits for the player. Not a lot of spotlight.
Now, every situation is different and that doesn't mean the little guy can't compete or doesnt have a quality program. Its just hard to maintain. One of the reasons why I think Dan Mullen is one of the best coaches in football.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:40 pm to GeorgeReymond
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The delta is very dark however many don't play football
It's very sad south and east Arkansas is so poor with so many good athletes not playing ball. I hope one day our education system in the state can somehow help these kids in more ways than one.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:42 pm to SunHog
ISD integration? Would that help?
Busing?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:44 pm to Sao
The problems seem easy to me. Lack of talent which is never going to change at Arkansas. The way Bert wants to play ball doesn't do good when you play so many teams with more talent then you. Bert hasn't been able to improve recruiting at all . Coaching turn over seems to be very high and the coaches are not even leaving for jobs that are much better. With his still of offense he should be able get better players then he has. I don't see anything that isn't wrong at Arkansas . They need a coach that can coach up players better like Petrino.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:47 pm to Sao
It just happens sometimes.
Toledo, Texas Tech, and aTm are all pretty good. It's not like you're getting beat by shite teams.
Although I'm sure it feels shitty to lose another game to aTm that you feel like you should have won.
Toledo, Texas Tech, and aTm are all pretty good. It's not like you're getting beat by shite teams.
Although I'm sure it feels shitty to lose another game to aTm that you feel like you should have won.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:47 pm to tjv305
What the frick is this drivel?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:49 pm to hawgfaninc
Depth is key because injuries are guaranteed
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:54 pm to Sao
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Your stats show a fracturing since Hatfield basically. Fracturing in soo soo many ways and for soo soo many reasons.
Coaches with winning conference records are bolded below:
McConnell 1-3
Paine 0-2
Craig 1-2
McLaren 4-1
Schmidt 14-13
Thomsen 26-42
George Cole 0-6
Tomlin 1-4
Rose 3-7
Barnhill 10-13
Douglas 4-14
Wyatt 7-5
Mitchell 8-9
Broyles 91-36
Holtz 37-18
Hatfield 36-10
Joe Kines 3-4-1
Danny Ford 16-24-1
Houston Nutt 42-38
Bobby Petrino 17-15
John L Smith 2-6
Bret Bielema 2-15
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:57 pm to SunHog
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It's very sad south and east Arkansas is so poor with so many good athletes not playing ball. I hope one day our education system in the state can somehow help these kids in more ways than one.
Don't even get me started
Posted on 9/29/15 at 5:57 pm to tjv305
Petrino? Seriously?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:01 pm to SunHog
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It's very sad south and east Arkansas is so poor with so many good athletes not playing ball. I hope one day our education system in the state can somehow help these kids in more ways than one.
Contact some tenured or tenure-track professors at your university and talk to them about starting a grassroots initiative using university human capital.
With the right academic research team, they can put together (a) proposal(s) to procure grant funds for the purpose of setting up a program for Univ. of Ark. education pre-service teachers (in the college/school of education) to be trained to teach in challenging, low-income areas of the state. Tuition for those students will be reimbursed, provided the teachers, in turn, commit to work a certain number of years (n=3?) in some of the disadvantaged schools.
It'll take several years to realize positive outcomes, but they'll happen, if the research/program is implemented effectively. Not only will education become more quality, but you can mix in the importance of physical development and sports (see where I'm going with this?).
Professors would be all over it (as would LEAs [local education agencies]), since the research opportunities are endless; and community outreach and cross-disciplinary collaboration is HUGE in the eyes of funders. The professors get their grants, research opportunities, and publications; students have shovel-ready jobs upon graduation; and lousy schools can be infused with some hope.
Funding agencies are killing to give money to projects such as this one--in The Delta and all over very poor, minority-laden communities.
Get busy, Arkansas! It's your state! Don't sit back and wait for the federal government to help; it'll lead to failure (see Mississippi education).
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:07 pm to hawgfaninc
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I'd like to see the two rosters compared to each other along with comparing the SEC's climate being harder or easier compared to now
2011 Ole Miss got blown out by Vanderbilt and Louisiana Tech. LSU began kneeling the ball with 6 minutes left.
This is Hugh's first year with a 2-deep of scholarship players on the O-line.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:11 pm to EKG
I sit here and think about some of the field houses I've seen in ETx over the years. Naturally, Gilmer is first. It's literally better than Trinity, Kilgore, TJC or whomever... Tiny little 5K town.
I wonder, what if the UofA endowment gave back to the strategic "20" lost high school districts in Arkansas? Mena, DeQueen, Texarkana, on and on. 200K per year each annually. Surely improvements could be done. Legal?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:19 pm to Sao
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Legal?
I don't see why not.
But that would Depend upon the mission/charge of the UofA endowment.
I have no idea how far beyond campus their dollars actually stretch.
This would be a discussion to have with the Dean of your College/School of Ed, as well as community partners (e.g., superintendents, principles, community colleges).
It's worth having a chat, anyway. Grad students would be all over it for theses work, dissertation topics, and research agendae.
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