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re: I do wonder, though, why Rees would leave a good Notre Dame team to take the same position

Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29173 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:37 pm to
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You say that Kiffin is overrated, but your school tried to hire him as HC just months ago.



my school hired Bryan Harsin. Wanting to hire kiffin doesn't give him a ringing endorsement. He is best known as a twitter troll........not for his HC ability.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:40 pm to
Better opportunity to win National Championship, ground floor learning experience from Coach Saban. Smart move on his part
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
17001 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:42 pm to
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at Alabama.

Yeah, Alabama has been better than Notre Dame lately, but it's a tougher conference, not to mention that he played at Notre Dame, though I don't think that's as big a deal to the coaches unless it's as head coach.


Wonder why did Kelly leave Notre Dame? Same thing is happening to Notre Dame OC is taking an OC job at Alabama which is better than being at Notre Dame.
Posted by UT Beer Man
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2023
283 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:44 pm to
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but it's a tougher conference, not to mention that he played at Notre Dame,


Also, if Alabama wins a NC, it'll be because Saban is a great coach.

But if they don't win a NC, it'll all be Rees' fault.

Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4903 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:42 pm to
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Also, if Alabama wins a NC, it'll be because Saban is a great coach.

But if they don't win a NC, it'll all be Rees' fault.


Wtf are you talking about? Bama fans gushed constantly about Sark, Kiffin, Pruitt, & Kirby. If Rees performs, he'll get all the credit he deserves.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10862 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:44 pm to
He was about to get fired and old man Saban saved his arse. Notre Dame AD was probably laughing his arse off when he heard the news.
Posted by UT Beer Man
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2023
283 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:45 pm to
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Bama fans gushed constantly about Sark, Kiffin, Pruitt, & Kirby.


Lol.

Every comment I see here says "Kirby copied the GOAT". Doesn't seem like they give him much credit.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7515 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:48 pm to
Doug Nussmeir - national title

Jim McElwain - 2 national titles

Lane Kiffin - national title

Brian DaBoll - national title

Steve Sarkisian -national title

O'Brien- processed because no national title
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
2888 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:59 pm to
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as overrated as they come.



Lane won an SEC championship and got into CFP with BLAKE SIMMS at QB and followed that up with a natty the next year with JAKE COKER at QB. Overrated my arse, not at Alabama. In comparison, name any Auburn OC any time who had back to back years like rhat. I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4903 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:13 pm to
Kirby did copy Saban's formula. He's currently doing it better than Saban himself.

I dont know what that has to do with Bama fans not giving their coaches any credit.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1973 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:21 pm to
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so you go back to the 80's?


Dye was the last half-consistent coach Auburn had. Practically no non-Auburn fans could name any coordinators from Auburn aside from Malzahn and Muschamp since the 80s.
Posted by Tigahtildeath
Member since Aug 2017
609 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:34 pm to
Because the HC will fail at ND and he has a better shot to learn under Saban and take over ND when the job is open in a couple years.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8416 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:19 pm to
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I heard this on something I was listening to. Said ND will have a harder time competing for NIL money compared to the top schools in the SEC and other conferences.


ND has no issue competing on NIL, and we'll out bid every school in the SEC including Alabama for the right kid. We're one of the richest schools in all of America with one of the richest alumni bases. Public schools from poor bottom tier states won't compete with us (or USC or Texas) in the long run for NIL dollars.

Our philosophy seems to be a bit different to this point: we pay heavier on retainers and college-proven talent than enticing high school talent. We'll see what strategy wins out long run.

As far as Rees goes, I think he's quite a gifted play caller, but he has his flaws. It is a no brainer to go work for a guy like Saban rather than an unproven leader like Freeman. However; he needs an adult over his shoulder a lot of the time to buffer him from his worst instincts. His ceilings are very high, and his floors are very low: we lost to fricking Marshall and Stanford mostly because of him and gained exactly 1 yard in the second half against Navy because of him.

He will have access to WR and RB talent that he would have never sniffed at ND, but he had better line and better TE talent than he will ever have at Alabama. There isn't a program in America that can compete with the All Pro, Pro Bowl, and draft pick talent that ND has produced up front (including TE) over the last decade, even Alabama.

So we'll see.

Edit: Also, if LSU fans are laughing, I'd rather have Rees than motherfricking Denbrock 10 times out of 10. What a bunch of clowns that you think that shite will work out.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:57 pm to
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He will have access to WR and RB talent that he would have never sniffed at ND, but he had better line and better TE talent than he will ever have at Alabama. There isn't a program in America that can compete with the All Pro, Pro Bowl, and draft pick talent that ND has produced up front (including TE) over the last decade, even Alabama.



You may have a point with TE, but not necessarily OL. Alabama has had more OL drafted than any other program over the last decade. Note the ESPN article confirming this that I am linking.

LINK ESPN Top NFL Draft Colleges
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92256 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:24 pm to
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Practically no non-Auburn fans could name any coordinators from Auburn aside from Malzahn and Muschamp since the 80s.
That would say more about them than the guys Auburn had as coordinators.

Kevin Steele
Derek Mason
Gene Chizik

Those are guys that were not only head coaches, but also guys that had multiple stops in the SEC.

Gene Chizik at Auburn twice, Kevin Steele at Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee and LSU, and Derek Mason at Vandy and Auburn.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92256 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:28 pm to
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”claiming" somebody is from a certain "coaches tree", because they stopped in for a few years and are having success, is absurd.
That’s a damned fact.

The Nick Saban “coaching tree” is way overblown.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:36 pm to
We couldn't give a shite. We have the GOAT.

Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92256 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:36 pm to
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Lane won an SEC championship and got into CFP with BLAKE SIMMS at QB and followed that up with a natty the next year with JAKE COKER at QB. Overrated my arse, not at Alabama. In comparison, name any Auburn OC any time who had back to back years like rhat. I'll hang up and listen.
Back to back years of what? Winning? Is offense the only measure of that, or does a team 1,000/1,000 also need more? You know, like defense and special teams?

Auburn had back to back years of great offense in 2013 and 2014.

Auburn PPG
2013: 39.5
2014: 35.5

Alabama PPG
2013: 38.2
2014: 36.9
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29173 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:58 pm to
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Lane won an SEC championship and got into CFP with BLAKE SIMMS at QB and followed that up with a natty the next year with JAKE COKER at QB.



he did that as an OC, not a HC. There is a huge difference in the two......see Will Muschamp.
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