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re: HUNH Rule change
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:53 pm to ronbergundy
Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:53 pm to ronbergundy
Of course it's something that can be fixed just by some simple instructions. No need for a rule change at all.
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:53 pm to KSGamecock
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Adolf Hitler invented the HUNH and used it with resounding success in the early years of WW2. All other HUNH disciples follow in his footsteps. Ban it.
This is freaking sig worthy.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:47 pm to cokebottleag
This is such an overblown issue. I don't think the NCAA is going to change the rule. Even if they did Auburn snaps the ball around 20-25 seconds left on the play clock. If the rule was changed I just don't think it would make a difference anyway? Am I missing something?
Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:58 pm to Rbama13
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This is such an overblown issue. I don't think the NCAA is going to change the rule. Even if they did Auburn snaps the ball around 20-25 seconds left on the play clock. If the rule was changed I just don't think it would make a difference anyway? Am I missing something?
What you are missing is that the reason Auburn snaps the ball at about 25 seconds is because the the ball is set at about 35 seconds the defense is set and the coaches look it over and send in the play.
If the ball is not set until 30 seconds on the clock the coaches look at the defense and send in the play it would be snapped at about 15 seconds. This is simplified example of course.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:00 pm to RandySavage
I still don't get why anyone would advocate creating this Bert&Saban rule in the name of player safety but at the same time say it's fine if the rule doesn't apply during certain parts of the game.
Maybe targeting should not be allowed for all but the last 2 minutes of the 1st half and last 5 minutes of the second half? Player safety and all.
Maybe targeting should not be allowed for all but the last 2 minutes of the 1st half and last 5 minutes of the second half? Player safety and all.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:06 pm to highcotton2
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What you are missing is that the reason Auburn snaps the ball at about 25 seconds is because the the ball is set at about 35 seconds the defense is set and the coaches look it over and send in the play.
If the ball is not set until 30 seconds on the clock the coaches look at the defense and send in the play it would be snapped at about 15 seconds. This is simplified example of course.
If you look at the IB of IBs (2013) there was one Auburn touchdown drive where they did snap the ball a few times at around 30-31 seconds. Sometimes it got down to I want to say 7 or 2 seconds. So anywhere in that time frame.
Under the new rule, Auburn would still do the same thing. Because the drive I'm talking about was Auburn's last drive where they tied the game at 28 which was under 5 minutes left in the game.
So at the end of the game where players are most tired, and according to Bert&Saban tired defensive players are at risk of injury, you're still allowed to run the HUNH.
Because this is about player safety.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:08 pm to bigpapamac
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Which is why if they want it passed they shouldn't be hiding behind player safety. They should simply say they're trying to give the defense a window to sub after every play, the offense can sub whenever they want and the defense should have that opportunity as well.
Maybe Saban said just that, Bert said player safety, Bert wears the pants in the relationship, Bert won. It was about player safety.
Had it been about subbing "fairness", well, it'd been a more interesting argument. Too late.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:10 pm to N97883
Thank you High Cotton! I really did not fully understand the debate. The rule should not be changed. Teams just need to change their defensive strategy against the HUNH. Coach Chavis has done a great job at LSU and we don't see him bitching and complaining?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:42 am to ErnestTBassmaster
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Bama's strength and conditioning program is one of, if not the, best in the country. RandySavage, you are one of, if not the, worst posters on SECR. At least you spelled some of the words in this post correctly.
Shooting players up with mass amounts of steroids does not prepare players to keep up with a fast paced offense.
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:54 am to RandySavage
quote:You are either being facetious (thought I'd make you work
Shooting players up with mass amounts of steroids does not prepare players to keep up with a fast paced offense.
), or your comment is equivalent to holding a well lit sign over your head with the word STUPID posted on it.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:55 am to RandySavage
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Which may be the reason bammer players rarely pan out in the NFL.
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Bama's strength and conditioning program is one of, if not the, best in the country. RandySavage, you are one of, if not the, worst posters on SECR. At least you spelled some of the words in this post correctly.
Shooting players up with mass amounts of steroids does not prepare players to keep up with a fast paced offense.
Which may be the reason bammer players rarely pan out in the NFL.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:01 am to tampajoe
quote:Do y'all know anything about drug testing and the NCAA?
Shooting players up with mass amounts of steroids does not prepare players to keep up with a fast paced offense. Which may be the reason bammer players rarely pan out in the NFL.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:04 am to coachcrisp
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Do y'all know anything about drug testing and the NCAA?
NCAA and rules? According to which program you're talking about. Some know how to circumvent the rules with no repercussions.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:11 am to tampajoe
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NCAA and rules? According to which program you're talking about. Some know how to circumvent the rules with no repercussions.
well alrighty then...I can see that this little exchange of thoughts is going nowhere. 
Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:52 pm to memphis tiger
This is a load of BULLSHYT... This is only Saban's way of saying, "Man this HUNH is really kicking my arse and it's the teams I struggle too much with. So we should change this for Jolly Ole Saint Nick, NCAA."
The only teams that seem to argue it. Are ones that don't use it and struggle against teams that use it. Play football and quit crying.
Maybe a team should come crying like a panzy saying that BAMA's smash mouth run it down your throat causes injuries lol... This has nothing to do with injuries and more to do with not wanting to go up against it. Saban be a cry baby is all..
The only teams that seem to argue it. Are ones that don't use it and struggle against teams that use it. Play football and quit crying.
Maybe a team should come crying like a panzy saying that BAMA's smash mouth run it down your throat causes injuries lol... This has nothing to do with injuries and more to do with not wanting to go up against it. Saban be a cry baby is all..
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:06 pm to Fat Hampster 420
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Fat Hampster 420
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17 posts
I can only imagine how insightful the first 16 were.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:27 pm to Crimson Legend
For those who don't think the defense should be given an opportunity to line up before the ball is snapped: Do you think it is ok for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter gets in the batter's box? Because this is essentially what the HUNH tries to do to the defense.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:49 pm to jchamil
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For those who don't think the defense should be given an opportunity to line up before the ball is snapped: Do you think it is ok for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter gets in the batter's box? Because this is essentially what the HUNH tries to do to the defense.
Wow...novel argument. Well, DJ-Replay, since you asked...what the frick are you talking about? The defense has EXACTLY as much time to get to the line as the offense. Actually, that's NOT true. They have more time because the offense has to be completely set (with only one player in lateral motion) for a full second. Whereas, the defense can still be in motion.
But since we are making baseball analogies...and safety always comes first regardless of the actual merit of the rule:
Baseball: 1. Get rid of the hard ball...use tennis balls...or better yet, bean bags.
2. Sliding: illegal
Hockey: 1. Don't play hockey
2. See rule#1
MMA: 1. MUST be able to substitute...if you are getting your arse kicked, or just gassed, you can tag team with your choice of Anderson Silva, Jon "Bones" Jones or Cain Velasquez. If they win while you are catching your breath, YOU WIN. Yay!!
Basketball: 1. No fast breaks 2. Get rid of shot clock. 3. If you get tired...you can give the ball to coach to hold for awhile while until you feel better. If you have sickle-cell anemia, every time anyone crosses mid-court, they award your team 10 points and a Saban bobble-head.
I could go on...and this is kind of fun, illuminating you arse hats...but I'm at work.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:56 pm to tkane311
Where did I say anything about safety?
You didn't answer the question, so I can assume you do think it's ok for the pitcher to pitch before the batter is in the batter's box?
You didn't answer the question, so I can assume you do think it's ok for the pitcher to pitch before the batter is in the batter's box?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:59 pm to jchamil
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For those who don't think the defense should be given an opportunity to line up before the ball is snapped: Do you think it is ok for a pitcher to throw a pitch before the batter gets in the batter's box? Because this is essentially what the HUNH tries to do to the defense.
As I stated in the other thread your statement is highly flawed.
First off, the defense is allowed to sub at any time.
Second, the defense does not need to be set.
Third there is no rule or part of football that states the defense must be in play in order for the offense to play. in fact the whole point of football is dedicated to trying to catch the defense off guard.
Fourth and most important. What part of the game does the Batter play in baseball? offense of defense
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