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re: HUNH in the SEC
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:38 am to mrbroker
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:38 am to mrbroker
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can someone please point to a team that does this that has won the BCS title? I don't recall AU in 2010 running it like they did in 2013. So if you claim AU won it in 2010 with a HUNH then can you share another team in the BSC era who has won it
AU won it in 2010, but it was not as fast a pace as this year (still fast). With Cam, the defenses where making adjustments more and AU would check at the LOS. This year the running game was so effective that they rarely had to change the play.
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:40 am to Irons Puppet
I love the HUNH. Forces your defensive players to read plays and get into position without the help of the coaches.
Turns games into a "who is most prepared" contest instead of a chess match of the head coaches.
Turns games into a "who is most prepared" contest instead of a chess match of the head coaches.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:46 am to mrbroker
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So if you claim AU won it in 2010 with a HUNH then can you share another team in the BSC era who has won it
2010 certainly was HUNH. I think AU ran the most plays of the season in the BCSNC.
Didn't Meyer run the HUNH at UF?
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:49 am to DuncanIdaho
Roper says that he will be running some no huddle next year at UF. Will be interesting to go from one extreme to the other.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:49 am to NBamaAlum
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I'd imagine it will be like the Wildcat fad.
I can see the "pace" being a fad, as Auburn isn't even one of the faster teams in reality. But I don't think the Malzahn brand of HUNH will be fading anytime soon. You can shut down systems, but stopping a concept is different.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:51 am to DuncanIdaho
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Didn't Meyer run the HUNH at UF?
No. He ran a spread option.
Oklahoma and Oregon have run it since at least 2008, and likely before that.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:54 am to DuncanIdaho
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quote: So if you claim AU won it in 2010 with a HUNH then can you share another team in the BSC era who has won it 2010 certainly was HUNH. I think AU ran the most plays of the season in the BCSNC. Didn't Meyer run the HUNH at UF?
Since the SEC has won 8 of ten BCSNC and LSU and Bama won 5 of them, I do not think you can use that as the benchmark. UF ran a no huddle, but not at a ultra fast pace. Oregon has shown the most success running the HUNH over the last 5 years, but they always choked away a game. What Gus does is different than what Oregon does.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:29 am to Irons Puppet
Oregon always chocked away a big game because their offense was dominated at the line. Personally, I believe it was because they put such an emphasis on speed that they sacrificed strength. When the came up against high level front 7's, the offense was comparatively ineffective.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:31 am to Irons Puppet
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MSU running a version of it
uhhhh no, no we don't. We go in the huddle basically every play....
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:35 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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Oregon always chocked away a big game because their offense was dominated at the line. Personally, I believe it was because they put such an emphasis on speed that they sacrificed strength. When the came up against high level front 7's, the offense was comparatively ineffective.
Remember in 2011, Kelley choked the game away agaisnt Stanford when he played for a FG at the end of the game.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:45 am to Irons Puppet
Oregon beat Stanford by 23 in 2011. Do you mean 2012? If so, I would say it is fair to call Oregon's offense ineffective because they only scored 14 points and failed on a few 4th and shorts.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:50 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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Oregon beat Stsnford by 23 in 2011. Do you mean 2012?
Correct. They were moving the ball on that last drive and he sets up the end of the game for a FG. Misses it and then loses in OT.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:55 am to Irons Puppet
Their kicker was god awful that year, and they also failed to convert two crucial 4th downs, one of which was at the Stanford 7. Their offense was bad that game.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:08 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Well for starters, Oklahoma has been running a no huddle offense for years.
"And how'd that work out for you?"
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:23 pm to Irons Puppet
And now Vandy has the man who led those Stanford defenses. Derek Mason is laughing at your hopes to outpace him. 
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:27 pm to Irons Puppet
I could see UGA moving a little in that direction this year for the sole reason being that QB Hutson Mason seems to be more comfortable in it... it's what he played in HS. Players have been quoted saying they have to tell him to slow down in practice. We saw a bad snap with him in the game late in the year because he was calling for the snap while the center was still calling blocking assignments, some false starts as well. I could see Bobo shifting the pace of the offense a little to compliment Mason's intincts for the hunh, if they can't break him of that habit.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:30 pm to Irons Puppet
We got the NH part down but not the HU.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:32 pm to deeprig9
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I could see UGA moving a little in that direction this year for the sole reason being that QB Hutson Mason seems to be more comfortable in it... it's what he played in HS. Players have been quoted saying they have to tell him to slow down in practice. We saw a bad snap with him in the game late in the year because he was calling for the snap while the center was still calling blocking assignments, some false starts as well. I could see Bobo shifting the pace of the offense a little to compliment Mason's intincts for the hunh, if they can't break him of that habit.
I do not think you move in that direction for one player, it has to be a transition for the whole program. If Richt does it next year based on Mason, then it is because he feels he needs to win big next year. I do not think it is an all or nothing situation for him yet.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:44 pm to Irons Puppet
Florida State and whether you agree or not Alabama(in the Sugar Bowl) showed you how you adjust to that HUNH offense, Flordia Stste more so than Bama. Your two ends will play a two technique instead of a three. For some reason having your ends in a stand up positions allows the defense to collapse the run and contain read option QBs better. When Bama went to it in the second half it slowed Oklahoma's offense miraculously. But turnovers and boneheaded plays in the secondary(Ala 3rd and very long conversion) did not help. FSU slowed Auburn's attack quite well. Your never going to stop those type offenses, but with a ball control offense and some defensive stops you will beat those type of teams.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:01 pm to Bama Brotha
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Florida State and whether you agree or not Alabama(in the Sugar Bowl) showed you how you adjust to that HUNH offense, Flordia Stste more so than Bama. Your two ends will play a two technique instead of a three. For some reason having your ends in a stand up positions allows the defense to collapse the run and contain read option QBs better. When Bama went to it in the second half it slowed Oklahoma's offense miraculously. But turnovers and boneheaded plays in the secondary(Ala 3rd and very long conversion) did not help. FSU slowed Auburn's attack quite well. Your never going to stop those type offenses, but with a ball control offense and some defensive stops you will beat those type of teams.
AU had 440 yards of Offense against FSU, I do not consider that slowing an Offense down. FSU stopped the Jet Sweep, but it left the middle of the field wide open to the pass. Marshall missed on a few easy passes or you would have seen FSU change their gameplan. OU did what AU wanted to do with their passing game. I look for AU to do more with it this year.
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