re: How Would You Rank SEC Programs Historically?

LSU doesn't claim all of theirs but we are behind Alabama and Tenn for NCs...

cant think of a single reason LSU doesn't claim 1908, it is as legit as it gets

meh, the whole "10+ win season" thing is kind of skewed anyway. For years and years, there wasn't a set number of games that were played in a given year, and for a long time, Auburn only played 10 games in a season anyway, sometimes less.
In fact if you just go back and look at season totals throughout the years, prior to 1992, you will notice that in most years, Alabama played 1 or 2 more games than a lot of other teams, and I am not talking about just bowl games. They played more regular season games, so it was easier to get a "ten win season" because they played more games each year to be able to get to that 10 win number.

Conference schedules weren't even set at 8 games a year until conference expansion in 1992.
From 1978 to 1987, all SEC schools played 6 SEC games per year.
From 1988-1991, they all played 7 SEC games per year.
In a lot of years, prior to 1978, Alabama would play an extra SEC game every year (usually against Vandy or Kentucky) and play more conference games than the other teams in the conference.
In 1972 for instance, Alabama "won" the conference championship with an overall record of 10-2-0 and a conference record of 7-1-0, beating UK, VU, UGA, UF, UT, MSU, LSU and losing to Auburn.
Auburn went 10-1-0 (6-1-0 SEC), beating MSU, UT, Ole Miss, UF, UGA, Alabama, and losing to LSU.

LSU only played 6 SEC games that year, went 4-1-1, beating Auburn, losing to Alabama, and tieing UF.

Since the number of conference games played varied from 6-8, the only way to determine "conference championships" back then was by pure winning percentage, and since Alabama played an extra game or 2 compared to other teams year in and year out back then, they could finish the season with the same number of losses as other teams in conference, and win the "championship" even when they lost head to head to those other teams.

the Bahr was really good at figuring out ways to use the rules and systems that were in place during his time to the best of his advantage.

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Florida has been good for like twenty-five years. They also have 0 undefeated seasons in their history. Without looking I'd bet that AU has them beat in almost all categories except national titles and SEC titles.

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From Wiki:

All-time record and winning percentage:

Auburn 733–416–47 (.633)
Florida 684–388–40 (.633)

Conference titles:

Auburn 13
Florida 8

Claimed national titles:

Auburn 2
Florida 3

Unclaimed national titles (recognized poll or computer titles by the NCAA):

Auburn 7
Florida 2

Bowl record:

Auburn 22-14-2
Florida 20-20

Heisman winners:

Auburn 3
Florida 3

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1. Alabama
2. Tennessee
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5. Auburn
6. Florida
7. Arkansas
8. Texas A&M
9. Ole Miss
10. Missouri
11. South Carolina
12. Vanderbilt
13. Mississippi State
14. Kentucky

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This guy gets it.

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UF was an SEC doormat

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It took decades to get over the hump and get an official championship, but doormat is a little extreme. After all UF has a higher winning percentage all time than Auburn, we had to pick up some wins pre-1990 right?

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When I started posting on this site Auburn was in the 5th to 6th range.

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They still are.

1. Alabama
2. Tennessee
3. Georgia/LSU
5. Auburn
6. Florida

Big Six

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6. Georgia

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Actually UT has a .431 winning percentage vs bama. Auburns percentage is .415.

UT has beat bama more than any other school with 37 wins. Auburn has 29.

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Auburn is 35-42-1 against them; y'all are 38-50-7.