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re: How Would You Rank SEC Programs Historically?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:54 pm to MrAUTigers
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:54 pm to MrAUTigers
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You do realize that before 1991 you had zero conference championships, right?
Auburn all time record 733-416-47 .633
Florida all time record 684-388-40 .633
all time head-to-head Auburn leads 43-38-2
No championships doesn't necessarily equal being a doormat. Pre-Spurrier we were plagued by close calls and probation. As you point out, the records over time are pretty similar. Between 1927 and 2002 when the UF-AU game was an annual rivalry, UF lead the series 38-34-2.
FWIW, I would probably rank AU above UF as well, I just took issue with the doormat comment
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:58 pm to Chronic
Even though I'm a LSU fan, it isn't even debatable that historically, Tennessee is 2nd to Bama.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:03 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
I agree but UT has been pretty much a .500 club since 2005. If this continues...
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:07 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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so you think UF football just started when Spurrier got there?
Considering they didn't win the sec one freaking tim until Spurrier became the HC, I'd say yes.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:13 pm to bgator85
I think a more interesting discussion would be focusing on the modern era.
I would suggest that symbolically that would be the "post Bryant" era starting in the 1983 season, which is very close to the 1984 NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma decision that removed NCAA restrictions on televised college football game with the subsequent start of ESPN college broadcasts in the same season.
Post 1984 the order to me is:
Alabama
Florida
Auburn
LSU
Tennessee
Georgia
Arkansas
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Miss. St
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Texas A&M & Missouri don't have the body of work to consider.
You could argue several ways about the top 3 (UA, UF, & Auburn). Auburn was probably the most consistent over the last 30 years, but Bama and Florida have a lot more hardware and more dominant runs along the way.
The next 3 are also kind of hard to separate with UGA being most consistent but UT & LSU having won championships and some very dominant stretches
I would suggest that symbolically that would be the "post Bryant" era starting in the 1983 season, which is very close to the 1984 NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma decision that removed NCAA restrictions on televised college football game with the subsequent start of ESPN college broadcasts in the same season.
Post 1984 the order to me is:
Alabama
Florida
Auburn
LSU
Tennessee
Georgia
Arkansas
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Miss. St
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Texas A&M & Missouri don't have the body of work to consider.
You could argue several ways about the top 3 (UA, UF, & Auburn). Auburn was probably the most consistent over the last 30 years, but Bama and Florida have a lot more hardware and more dominant runs along the way.
The next 3 are also kind of hard to separate with UGA being most consistent but UT & LSU having won championships and some very dominant stretches
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:15 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
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Considering they didn't win the sec one freaking tim until Spurrier became the HC, I'd say yes.
Incorrect.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:17 pm to Korin
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national titles (AP/Coaches) - 4 points each
SEC titles - 3 points each
bowl wins - 2 points each
division titles - 1 point each
Alabama: 40 + 69 + 68 + 9 = 186
Tennessee: 8 + 39 + 50 + 6 = 103
Georgia: 4 + 36 + 54 + 7 = 101
LSU: 12 + 33 + 46 + 8 = 99
Florida: 12 + 24 + 40 + 12 = 88
Auburn: 8 + 39 + 44 + 8 = 99
There was football in the south before 1933. Just because UF didn't win anything back then doesn't mean you get to skip it.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:21 pm to droliver
quote:
modern era
quote:
starting in the 1983 season
If you had to pick one year, that would be a good one. I concur.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:30 pm to Chronic
Bama
UT
LSU
UGA
Auburn
UF
A&M
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Mizzou
USC
UK
MSU
Vandy
You could just as easily flip LSU and UGA.
UT
LSU
UGA
Auburn
UF
A&M
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Mizzou
USC
UK
MSU
Vandy
You could just as easily flip LSU and UGA.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:37 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
From 1800's to today
Alabama
Tennessee
LSU
UGA
Auburn
Florida
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Texas AM
Missouri
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Obviously some could be debatable
Alabama
Tennessee
LSU
UGA
Auburn
Florida
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Texas AM
Missouri
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Obviously some could be debatable
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:42 pm to Chronic
If you put Vanderbilt #14, your list is invalid. Do some research people.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:53 pm to beatbammer
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There was football in the south before 1933. Just because UF didn't win anything back then doesn't mean you get to skip it.
Football before 1943 was complete bullsh**. There were like 3,4,or 5 national champions every year. To go back further is to acknowledge that Princeton is the greatest football program of all time with their 28 National Championships.
FBS Champions (All Hail Princeton the GOAT)
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:56 pm to Korin
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Incorrect.
1991 SEC Steve Spurrier 10–2 7–0
1993 SEC Steve Spurrier 11–2 7–1
1994 SEC Steve Spurrier 10–2–1 7–1
1995 SEC Steve Spurrier 12–1 8–0
1996 SEC Steve Spurrier 12–1 8–0
2000 SEC Steve Spurrier 10–3 7–1
2006 SEC Urban Meyer 13–1 7–1
2008 SEC Urban Meyer 13–1 7–1
Total Conference Titles 8
Here is a list of every Conf. Champion
LINK
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:18 pm to MrAUTigers
Again, incorrect (just like your source).
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:18 pm to TreyAnastasio
Auburn behind UGA? Solid troll.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:21 pm to Socratics
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FBS Champions (All Hail Princeton the GOAT)
Latin crest for: "Got 28, bitch"
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:11 am to NorthEndZone
Bama's number 2 in actual on field winning percentage.
If Auburn pays players in 91-92 but gets zero games taken away why does Bama get games taken away in 93 ? Oklahoma has zero games stripped but ha been on probation 7 times. Frankly anyone who doesn't understand that on field results are the facts of life are idiots.
If Auburn pays players in 91-92 but gets zero games taken away why does Bama get games taken away in 93 ? Oklahoma has zero games stripped but ha been on probation 7 times. Frankly anyone who doesn't understand that on field results are the facts of life are idiots.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:33 am to S.E.C. Crazy
Isn't that the last time the NCAA forfeited games instead of vacating?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 5:10 am to Chronic
GA is probably #1 all time.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 5:13 am to Chronic
So essentially A&M is just a middle-of-the-pack program?
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