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re: How many SEC teams get in playoffs under this scenario?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:20 am to nicholastiger
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:20 am to nicholastiger
Kinda early for all this, but in your scenario, Georgia is the definite odd man out. This why there needs to be at least an 8 team playoff.
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:50 am to Master of Sinanju
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I guess Clemson trumps Miami and Georgia goes. I don't think the SEC will ever get 3 out of 4 spots.
While I agree with your thought process....Alabama typically gets the benefit of the doubt. (Understandable given their recent history) I think Alabama would go.
That said, the committee might figure that Alabama had the more recent loss, so they could pick Georgia.
And, it would also depend on how bad the losses were.
Lots of moving pieces. I doubt your scenario happens though. Things just tend to work out once way or the other.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:54 am to TrussvilleTide
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If Florida wins out they will be ranked 3-4ish, so them beating a #1 Bama wouldn't necessarily knock Bama out of it. If Clemson keeps playing like trash, I don't see how you can put UGA in the playoff even with 1 loss because they will have literally beaten no one besides a Clemson we now know(think?) was vastly overrated in the preseason.
While I agree with what you are saying, Clemson will probably win out (ACC) and would end up being ranked very high (top 3 or 4, maybe?) and our win over them would then look pretty good, too.
I do think Alabama would go and Georgia would be left home, though. This would be a nightmare scenario for the committee, though. Add in if Oklahoma gets straightened out and wins out and.....wow....
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:54 am to nicholastiger
Hard to say without knowing what happens in other conferences, but I'd guess Alabama is left out in this scenario. Since the advent of the BCS, only twice has a team that lost their conference championship game played for a national title (Nebraska 2001 and Oklahoma 2003), and that hasn't happened since 2003.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:54 am to nicholastiger
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Florida wins out including sec championship game over Bama - 1 loss
Bama loses sec championship game to fla in rematch - only 1 loss
UGA loses to Fla and wins rest of games - one loss
All would have decent playoff resumes.
Hell. I just hope this happens
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:01 am to TrussvilleTide
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In CFB more than anything else, what you did last year barely matters. What you did 3-4 years ago is entirely irrelevant. This year's Bama and Clemson teams might as well be completely different from the 2020 squads.
2017 disproves your theory. Alabama did not win the SEC, nor did they even play in the SEC game. They basically got in based off the prior several years accomplishments. Don't misunderstand me. I think Alabama and Georgia were definitely the two best teams, but a nonconference champion went to the playoffs. It has never happened before and we'll see if it happens again.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:05 am to PanhandleSlim
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:08 am to nicholastiger
I will say this....food for thought. If Oklahoma wins out they will not put two SEC teams in the playoffs. (Doesn't matter what happens in the other conferences)
The last thing the committee will want to do is put two SEC teams in and one future SEC team in. They will avoid that at all costs.
The last thing the committee will want to do is put two SEC teams in and one future SEC team in. They will avoid that at all costs.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:40 am to nicholastiger
If this scenario happens, things will get weird. And imagine if PAC eliminates themselves again and Clemson falters. I can’t imagine a 3 SEC team playoff wouldn’t cause an uproar. Maybe 4 if you include Oklahoma.
I think the UGA resume would be extremely thin though with Clemson going down, so it’s unlikely. Plus there could be some anti SEC revolt that pushes in a very undeserving team. This year everyone is talking about Cincinnati playing a “real” schedule with Notre Dame and Indiana.
I think the UGA resume would be extremely thin though with Clemson going down, so it’s unlikely. Plus there could be some anti SEC revolt that pushes in a very undeserving team. This year everyone is talking about Cincinnati playing a “real” schedule with Notre Dame and Indiana.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:50 am to nicholastiger
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Florida wins out including sec championship game over Bama - 1 loss
Bama loses sec championship game to fla in rematch - only 1 loss
UGA loses to Fla and wins rest of games - one loss
All would have decent playoff resumes
Throw in a one loss Ole Miss team.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:08 pm to nicholastiger
It would be beautiful because we would expand the playoffs with quickness!
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:36 pm to DawgsLife
Yeah, how well they played had nothing to do with it
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:54 pm to TrussvilleTide
OU gets in if they continue to win but I think they could lose 2 games with the way they're playing right now. So let's say OU has 2 losses, Oregon has 2 losses and Clemson wins out. You would have UF, Bama and the B10 champ. Do you put Clemson in over a 1 loss UGA who beat them head to head? I would say no but I think the committee would screw UGA as they won't want 3 SEC teams in.
Which is why I've always proposed the AND4 possibility. That's where the committee could decide to add 1, 2, 3, maybe even 4 teams to the playoffs. So you could have a 5 team playoff where #4 and #5 would play each other (highest rank would be the home team). Maybe you add 2 or 3 teams if they are all bunched up. Some years, you would just have 4 teams but most years you would probably have 5 or 6 teams and some years you may have up to 8.
Which is why I've always proposed the AND4 possibility. That's where the committee could decide to add 1, 2, 3, maybe even 4 teams to the playoffs. So you could have a 5 team playoff where #4 and #5 would play each other (highest rank would be the home team). Maybe you add 2 or 3 teams if they are all bunched up. Some years, you would just have 4 teams but most years you would probably have 5 or 6 teams and some years you may have up to 8.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:56 pm to nicholastiger
If available, theyd probably fit undefeated Cincy, 1 loss Oregon, and 1 loss Oklahoma over Georgia. Id love to see them try to justify putting in a Clemson team that played a much weaker schedule and got beat by UGA.
3 SEC teams arent getting in unless there is literally no other option
3 SEC teams arent getting in unless there is literally no other option
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:43 pm to TrussvilleTide
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Clemson is going to have to start blowing people out or they won't make it even with 1 loss. I don't see how people can trash Oklahoma every year for blowing 1 game then destroying everyone else, but Clemson gets a pass in a conference that is just as bad.
Our loss is typically to a team like KSU, not a top ten or 15 team. That’s on us.
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