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re: How many potential 1st round picks were on the field for LSU/BAMA
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:18 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:18 am to Prominentwon
here's another one ranking him as the top CB for the 2014 draft...
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very strange... because I didn't think he was going to be a very high draft pick either. Then I started reading more from NFL scouts, and I was pretty surprised. They are all very high on him.
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very strange... because I didn't think he was going to be a very high draft pick either. Then I started reading more from NFL scouts, and I was pretty surprised. They are all very high on him.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:26 am to lsunatchamp
An NFL Analyst (forgot his name) on Matt Mascona's show said 17. 

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Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:59 am to T Rey WI
No Doubt first round players in the next 2-3 drafts:
Richardson
Kirkpatrick
Barron
Menzie
Claiborne
Reid
Brockers
others who have a good chance: Hightower; Mathieu; Upshaw; Montgomery; Faulk; Barret Jones
Many other younger players who also may get drafted high.
Richardson
Kirkpatrick
Barron
Menzie
Claiborne
Reid
Brockers
others who have a good chance: Hightower; Mathieu; Upshaw; Montgomery; Faulk; Barret Jones
Many other younger players who also may get drafted high.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:02 am to Beastfense
LSU's possible 1st rounders
Rueben Randle if he stays until the 2013 draft.Not this year likely but if he stays and has another good year he could go 1st round.He'll measure and test very well
Chris Faulk-prototype size and athleticism for NFL tackles.Only a soph
Sam Montgomery-speed rusher with suprising strength.Prime candidate as a 3-4 rush LB
Mingo-same as Montgomery aside from the strength
Micheal Brockers-great size and can blow up the line at times.Soph that will continue to get better
Anthony Johnson-pretty much self explanatory
Ego Ferguson-his athleticism and talent are 1st round gradable.He's played pretty well this year.Depends on how he develops his natural talent.just a freshman
Claiborne-lock
Mathie-i have doubts but it's possible
Simon-6'3 cbs with his skills are rare.I personally think he'll be the best pure cb when compared to PP7 and Claiborne
Ried-Smart,size and just a good football player with talent
Loston- if he ever stays healthy and plays smarter he has the talent to be a star.
Rueben Randle if he stays until the 2013 draft.Not this year likely but if he stays and has another good year he could go 1st round.He'll measure and test very well
Chris Faulk-prototype size and athleticism for NFL tackles.Only a soph
Sam Montgomery-speed rusher with suprising strength.Prime candidate as a 3-4 rush LB
Mingo-same as Montgomery aside from the strength
Micheal Brockers-great size and can blow up the line at times.Soph that will continue to get better
Anthony Johnson-pretty much self explanatory
Ego Ferguson-his athleticism and talent are 1st round gradable.He's played pretty well this year.Depends on how he develops his natural talent.just a freshman
Claiborne-lock
Mathie-i have doubts but it's possible
Simon-6'3 cbs with his skills are rare.I personally think he'll be the best pure cb when compared to PP7 and Claiborne
Ried-Smart,size and just a good football player with talent
Loston- if he ever stays healthy and plays smarter he has the talent to be a star.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:03 am to Beastfense
LSU's possible 1st rounders
Rueben Randle if he stays until the 2013 draft.Not this year likely but if he stays and has another good year he could go 1st round.He'll measure and test very well
Chris Faulk-prototype size and athleticism for NFL tackles.Only a soph
Sam Montgomery-speed rusher with suprising strength.Prime candidate as a 3-4 rush LB
Mingo-same as Montgomery aside from the strength
Micheal Brockers-great size and can blow up the line at times.Soph that will continue to get better
Anthony Johnson-pretty much self explanatory
Ego Ferguson-his athleticism and talent are 1st round gradable.He's played pretty well this year.Depends on how he develops his natural talent.just a freshman
Claiborne-lock
Mathie-i have doubts but it's possible
Simon-6'3 cbs with his skills are rare.I personally think he'll be the best pure cb when compared to PP7 and Claiborne
Ried-Smart,size and just a good football player with talent
Loston- if he ever stays healthy and plays smarter he has the talent to be a star.
Rueben Randle if he stays until the 2013 draft.Not this year likely but if he stays and has another good year he could go 1st round.He'll measure and test very well
Chris Faulk-prototype size and athleticism for NFL tackles.Only a soph
Sam Montgomery-speed rusher with suprising strength.Prime candidate as a 3-4 rush LB
Mingo-same as Montgomery aside from the strength
Micheal Brockers-great size and can blow up the line at times.Soph that will continue to get better
Anthony Johnson-pretty much self explanatory
Ego Ferguson-his athleticism and talent are 1st round gradable.He's played pretty well this year.Depends on how he develops his natural talent.just a freshman
Claiborne-lock
Mathie-i have doubts but it's possible
Simon-6'3 cbs with his skills are rare.I personally think he'll be the best pure cb when compared to PP7 and Claiborne
Ried-Smart,size and just a good football player with talent
Loston- if he ever stays healthy and plays smarter he has the talent to be a star.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:05 am to lsufanva
Loston will be lucky to ever start at this point. He is a liability in pass coverage
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:10 am to Tiger Ryno
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No Doubt first round players in the next 2-3 drafts
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Menzie
Does not compute.
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others who have a good chance: Hightower; Mathieu; Upshaw; Montgomery; Faulk; Barret Jones
I would add Josh Chapman, Nico Johnson, CJ Mosely, and DJ Fluker to that list for Bama (if we are only looking at next 2 drafts...I can't estimate for the draft that would include this year's FR).
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:13 am to Remy74
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I think each defense had ~7-9 total potential 1st rounders over the next 3 years.
Bama Potential 1st Rounders on Defense:
Chapman
Upshaw
Barron-fringe 1st rounder in 2012
Hightower-likely 2nd round
Kirkpatrick
Milliner- Great measureables (Probably Bama's best athlete....Patrick Peterson like Combine likely in terms of 40, vertical & standing broad jump) and still very young (~19-20)
Lester-fringe 1st rounder in 2013
Clinton-Dix
LSU Potential 1st Rounders
Mingo
Montgomery
Brockers
Logan
Claiborne
Mathieu
Reid
Johnson
I'm not as familiar with LSU's back-ups that could be potential future 1st rounders.
I forgot to include:
CJ Mosley
Nico Johnson- "potentially" 1st round
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:16 am to Tiger Ryno
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No Doubt first round players in the next 2-3 drafts:
Richardson
Kirkpatrick
Barron
Menzie
Claiborne
Reid
Brockers
others who have a good chance: Hightower; Mathieu; Upshaw; Montgomery; Faulk; Barret Jones
Many other younger players who also may get drafted high.
Menzie is a senior and he won't be drafted in the 1st round in the 2012 Draft. If he's lucky, perhaps early 3rd round. Menzie is a mid 4.6x guy in the 40. That alone will keep him out of the 1st round.
Menzie Draft Profile:
LINK
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:19 am to ljhog
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1st round at what position??
Mathieu is ranked as the #1 CB in for the 2014 Draft Class. RB and CB are 2 positions where "ideal" size is overvalued. Scouts look for guys who can make plays regardless of size.
As you can see per the below link, Mathieu is rated higher than Xavier Rhodes and Dee Milliner who are both 4 inches taller than Mathieu.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:28 am to Remy74
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Menzie is a senior and he won't be drafted in the 1st round in the 2012 Draft. If he's lucky, perhaps early 3rd round.
Agreed. I think he is a 3rd rounder. He could perform his way at combine and in workouts up one round (see Kareem Jackson as example).
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Menzie is a mid 4.6x guy in the 40.
This is incorrect. I saw the link, but the link is old. He ran a 4.62 6 months after an achiles injury. This past spring he ran a 4.51. With the right speed training in advance of the draft he could easily hit 4.45/4.48.
Menzie is a freakish athlete. He'll perform really well in team workouts and combine.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:30 am to bbvdd
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Hightower in the 2nd?? Do you think his knee drops him? He's probably the most dominant MB in college.
Mathieu is 5'9" with 2 inch heals and lifters. His size alone will keep him out of the 1st round.
Most scouts/NFL analysts currently have this order for ILB in the 2012 Draft:
Manti Te'o
Vontaze Burfict
Luke Kuechly
Dont'a Hightower
Nico Johnson
This could all change after the NFL Combine & Pro Days.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:37 am to bamasgot13
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This is incorrect. I saw the link, but the link is old. He ran a 4.62 6 months after an achiles injury. This past spring he ran a 4.51. With the right speed training in advance of the draft he could easily hit 4.45/4.48.
Menzie is a freakish athlete. He'll perform really well in team workouts and combine.
I'll take your word on the 4.51 but CB is the deepest position in the 2012 NFL Draft and I still doubt that he goes before the 3rd round. The below are other CBs that will be available in the 2012 Draft. Menzie will probably need to be ranked in the top 8 of these guys to go in the 1st 2 rounds.
I hope he blows up at the Combine and improves his draft stock. The higher Bama players are drafted the more it helps our recruiting.
Morris Claiborne
Dre Kirkpatrick
Janoris Jenkins
Alfonzo Dennard
Jayron Hosley
Brandon Boykin
Cliff Harris
Coryell Judie
Chase Minnifield
Stephon Gilmore
De'quan Menzie
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:41 am to lsunatchamp
Todd McShay and the guy with the hair on ESPN said Bama has 17 future NFL guys and LSU has 10 future NFL guys.
drafts I have seen have one LSU player in first round, and two Bama players in first round.
pre season media had 6 or 7 Bama guys first team SEC and only Tyrann Matthieu for LSU on first team. I am guessing Mo Claiborne will make first team over Dre, but I could be wrong. Lots of football left. I hope Dre gets over his concussion and makes a complete recovery.
drafts I have seen have one LSU player in first round, and two Bama players in first round.
pre season media had 6 or 7 Bama guys first team SEC and only Tyrann Matthieu for LSU on first team. I am guessing Mo Claiborne will make first team over Dre, but I could be wrong. Lots of football left. I hope Dre gets over his concussion and makes a complete recovery.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:41 am to Remy74
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Mathieu is ranked as the #1 CB in for the 2014 Draft Class
I am 100% confident that Tharold Simon gets drafted ahead of Mathieu.
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