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re: How many Nattys in number would LSU have now if Saban had stayed?

Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Roll Tide Nation
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:44 pm to
He wasn't nearly as good at LSU as he is at Bama. He won a Natty there but also had a lot of 9-4 type years...he also didn't recruit like he does now.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66817 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 12:47 pm to
Do note that Saban at Alabama has now been ranked 89 times at #1 in the AP poll.
At LSU, Saban was ranked #1 in the AP poll a grand total of 0 times.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Les miles and Ed orgeron have both killed it in recruiting


Not quite the same as stockpiling 6 straight #1 classes
Posted by 4thquarter
Member since Sep 2019
84 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:11 pm to
Hard to say. I think he is a better coach now. Not doing so well at Miami made him work even harder. And he was already a good coach when he left LSU. I think you guys are lucky that Miami didn't take a chance on Drew Brees or Saban might still be coaching in the NFL. And the Saints would still suck.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31010 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 1:12 pm to
All the ones Bama won, plus those Tide choked away, plus a few more..because LSU.
This post was edited on 10/14/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by lsuag88
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:04 pm to
7-8.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26793 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:09 pm to
Yeah. I'm having a hard time seeing less than 5 titles.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:10 pm to
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125236 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Depends. Are the woodchuck offices in Birmingham or not?
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3957 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:15 pm to
This is revisionist history. Saban started recruiting at a hyper-elite level his last couple of years at LSU. The NFL draft and Les Miles's early success shows this to be true.

He did not have the credibility or honing of the financial resources at LSU when he first started. Once he won an SEC title in his second year, and a national title in his fourth, he now had the commitment and credibility needed to compete at the highest possible level. He just so happened to leave right before realizing that.

Let me ask you this, Les Miles had a total of 6 losses in his first three years with one national title, so do you think Saban would do the same or worse? Probably better and then there would have been opportunity to build off of that.

At Alabama, he walked in to a program that knew how to win and had immediate access to the necessary resources. He was also one of in not the most credible coaches in the country. It still took him three years to win the SEC and a national title. However, he obviously stayed.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
3032 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:16 pm to
Since he never had back to back 10 win seasons at LSU, I'm guessing none ??.

UA is a much better job.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24635 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:51 pm to
Some bama homer has to ask this question every year!!!

But odds are... he'd have Championships if he'd stayed at LSU, then he would have had if he had stayed with the Dolphins.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:56 pm to
He had already recruited the talent to win 2005, 2006, and 2007. After that -- who knows?
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:59 pm to
I agree, Bama is a better job than LSU, but had he stayed at LSU, I could see 4 titles
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:13 pm to
1.5 more than they have now.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16940 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:33 pm to
Those stacked '05 & '06 teams he most certainly would've won 1.

Les won in 2007 so I assume Saban could've also.

Les went to another in 2011. I would assume Saban at least matches Les' success.

3 at the very least is not far fetched at all.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34629 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:08 pm to
Probably 2006 and/or 2007

Likely at least 1 with Perrilloux, no chance he kicked him off

2011 for sure

Probably 2012

At least 1 between 2013-now

So likely 4-5
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35415 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:13 pm to
0 because according to the LSU fanbase, it's the REC and refs that have been keeping them from winning them anyway.

Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 8:17 pm to
Maybe 1 or 2 more, but definitely not 5. Hard to overcome the loser mentality so prevalent in Louisiana. Saban hates whiners and that victimhood complex they inherited from their French heritage.
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