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re: How Many Great Coordinators Were Actually Great Head Coaches?

Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by SecGamer
Member since Jan 2026
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:32 pm to
Dan Lanning
Kirby Smart
Lane Kiffin
Mark Richt

Bill Belichick
Andy Reid
Bill Walsh
Tom Landry
Chuck Noll
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
21665 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:36 pm to
Explain Dan Lanning and Mark Richt’s greatness. I can get more on board with Richt than Dan Lanning. And Mark Richt’s own fanbase wanted to fire him for nearly a decade.
Posted by Incognito Izzy
Member since Feb 2026
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:37 pm to
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Pete Carroll was an accomplished DC on both the college level (under Kiffin .


I just now learned that Pete Carroll was a defensive coordinator under Lane Kiffin. That probably explains why Carroll had such success at Seattle, Kiffin taught him everything he knew.

Kiffin may not be retarded after all./
Posted by SecGamer
Member since Jan 2026
17 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:39 pm to
Look at the totality of my response brother.
I work for a living, don’t have time to split hairs.
Posted by Csmims
A sandy beach in paradise
Member since Jan 2019
3778 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:45 pm to
I’m not sure that Pete Carroll ever worked for Lane Kiffin. I do know Pete Carroll was the head coach at Southern Cal and Kiffin. I believe was his offensive coordinator.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
21665 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 10:51 pm to
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I work for a living


At 10:45 pm CST. Yeah, I bet you don’t have a second to spare.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
21665 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:00 pm to
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I just now learned that Pete Carroll was a defensive coordinator under Lane Kiffin


You have to remember that a million LSU fans live below sea level.

Pete Carroll was head coach at USC and left to be head coach of the Seattle Seahawks in 2009.

USC hired Lane Kiffin from Tennessee (he handled that well) when Carroll left. Less than 3 years later USC fired Kiffin in a tarmac closet.
Posted by Incognito Izzy
Member since Feb 2026
17 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 11:41 pm to
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You have to remember that a million LSU fans live below sea level.


This could logically explain why being rantards is their default state. They honestly believe no matter what kind of shite they fling against the wall, someone out there in the Internets will believe them.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44537 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:04 am to
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I just now learned that Pete Carroll was a defensive coordinator under Lane Kiffin. That probably explains why Carroll had such success at Seattle, Kiffin taught him everything he knew.


No dumbass, Pete Carroll was the DC under Monte Kiffin, at NC State.
FYI- he's Lane's father.


Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
76623 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:26 am to
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I just now learned that Pete Carroll was a defensive coordinator under Lane Kiffin. That probably explains why Carroll had such success at Seattle, Kiffin taught him everything he knew. Kiffin may not be retarded after all./
He was the DC for NC State from 80-82 when Monte Kiffin was the head coach there
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68630 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 12:59 am to
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So don’t think any coach at a top half p4 program can be considered a great head coach if they don’t have a national championship, a couple of conference titles, or both.

And even then it is debatable.


So you're narrowing the pool down to a very small amount of people and then asking why those people weren't always great coordinators?

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Here is the crazy thing that LSU fans won’t believe, a bit of a compliment. I think Ed Orgeron was a hell of a coach - just not a great head coach. Great DL line coach and good DC. 


Ed Orgeron was never a DC.
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