re: How is a team that lost a game by 5 TOUCHDOWNS ranked ahead of

This is something I don't understand either. You lose by 5 TDs and there's something horribly wrong with the way your football team is built. When deciding rankings, and a group of teams have comparable resumes, how can a team who got obliterated like Arizona State have any argument?

If MSU loses via an overtime FG we'll see tons of folks still campaigning for them to stay in or around the top 4. If they lose 59-0 there won't be as many people backing them.

I assure you if Alabama losses by 5 TDs to someone I'll be first in line to question if they deserve to be a top 4 team. And that's with a pretty hard schedule. Some of these teams have no room for a 5 TD loss IMO.

Losses say a shite ton about a team. If 2011 Alabama losses by 5 TDs to LSU there aren't even close to as many people saying they deserve to be in over Oklahoma St. And if Oklahoma St's 1 loss wasn't to Iowa St they're probably in the big dance.

To me, you have absolutely NO argument if you lose to a pitiful team, or lose by 5 TDs. Legit top 4 teams don't do that.

frick Ohio State.

1. Mississippi State
2. Oregon
3. Alabama
4. TCU
5. Baylor
6. Ole Miss
7. Auburn
8. Arizona State
9. Georgia
10. Florida State

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As with the Oregon ranking, it is obvious that they are taking serious injuries into account.

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But they didn't seem to factor in that Bama lost Drake and our center when playing @ Ole Miss.

Bama controls their destiny, but the committtee seems to keep changing the criteria for different teams. Head to head matters for one situation while injuries & where the game is played matter for another. Jeff Long says that Baylor needs to be impressive in their remaining games but they don't really put a heavy emphasis on margin of victory...so what does that mean? And Alabama simply didn't win an "away" game....they won @ night in Tiger Stadium. That's not exactly your standard away game. As stated above, the SEC isn't carrying the weight with the committee that it deserves and that will be obvious come Selection Day.

Should've just used the BCS formula because the committee is just making things up as they go along.

If you can't see that your SOS is killing you right now than I don't think any debate is going to matter. TCU and Oregon have a better SOS at the moment that will significantly flip in the next three weeks.

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Arizona State is 8-1

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You answered your own question.

Oregon has played a tough schedule to date. If you can't see that, you never will. You can act like Arkansas would be bowl eligible in the Pac but a team like Washington State went to Auburn and gave them a game. We don't have an easy out either week in and week out. Oregon has played Stanford that was giving up 250 yards a game and Utah that was averaging close to 5 sacks a game the last two weeks. We are fricking beat up to.

We have had a starting WR, 8 OL, all three TEs, DE, our stud CB and several other injuries.

You are biased.

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And Alabama simply didn't win an "away" game....they won @ night in Tiger Stadium. That's not exactly your standard away game. As stated above, the SEC isn't carrying the weight with the committee that it deserves and that will be obvious come Selection Day.

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Alabama's win over LSU still isn't as impressive as TCU's win over K-State. Don't see how you can say that the SEC isn't carrying the weight it "deserves" with the committee. They have an SEC team ranked #1. If the SEC isn't getting its "deserved" weight, why don't they have FSU #1? Or even Oregon? TCU's loss was to a higher ranked team than ours, their best win is over a higher ranked team than ours, and they have a second ranked win. If we don't pass TCU after beating MSU, you'll have an argument. Until then...no.

Everybody sucks. No one should get in.

To be honest, how many teams at the top of each league have scheduled good non con games this year. LSU Wisconsin, Oregon Mich St, KState Auburn, and MAYBE if your feeling nice Bama WV. Out of all of those, only Oregon and Alabama have a legit shot at the playoff. That is why we have the committee to distinguish. Also, so pre-season rankings don't keep bad teams afloat and hold down deserving contenders- See South Carolina. To date, the committee has release well thought out rankings. Logic and reason based, without computers and preseason rankings to shaft teams.

Any team that gives up 400 on the ground shouldn't even be ranked!

I bet you like that one.