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re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:35 pm to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:35 pm to TheCheshireHog
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They hate to acknowledge this
Umm we acknowledge this every single week. It’s your fans that show up in every thread about Arkansas to bash Odom that don’t seem to understand that we didn’t hire him as our head coach.
Really?! I am not bashing your team! You have your fans posted stuff and say Missouri sucks and so forth. I had to explain Odom is a good DC and that is it! Bad HC, bad at recruiting some players and the offense coaches were all either left or were not retained. Drinkwitz is a much better HC than Odom. You got a good DC and that is great! So what else do you want Missouri fans to say? I only posted where I uses Odom when he was the HC at Missouri and what he did that hurt Missouri. That is all!
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:42 pm to midnight special
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He is a bad head coach and a good coordinator.
This is nothing but Mizzou's way of coping.
He was never welcomed by Mizzou fans - it was disappointment from day 1, Mizzou thought they deserved an established high level coach.
His teams offenses broke records in the SEC. How quickly that was forgotten.
He took over Mizzou at a time that is impossible to calculate the real cultural damage, and he was still dealing with these issues from the previous regime in his final season.
He proved to recruit real football players, amid incredible challenges.
The fact is Mizzou fan boys were never happy and they were constantly looking for a way to get him out.
Have you watch any of his bad losses? Wyoming first game last year? Then just could beat Kentucky! Drinkwitz did it in his first year! Huge difference. He is much better HC than Odom will ever be at Missouri. He isn't a HC just like Muschamp and some others.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:48 pm to midnight special
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This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 12:11 am
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:53 pm to TrueLefty
@truelefty: you're validating every point I've made here about Mizzou fans.
You're proving context is irrelevant in a decision to fire a would-be 25 year HC of destiny.
You're proving the core of your fanbase was weak enough to let an incomplete narrative grow as it did.
You're proving your fanbase was foolish enough to think they're anything but a max-out 8 win program with the occasional 10 win season when the depth chart aligns properly and Barry was the perfect guy for a consistent and solid program of character.
Y'all fricked up and you're only beginning to see that you might have. It will get much much worse for you in the years to come.
You're proving context is irrelevant in a decision to fire a would-be 25 year HC of destiny.
You're proving the core of your fanbase was weak enough to let an incomplete narrative grow as it did.
You're proving your fanbase was foolish enough to think they're anything but a max-out 8 win program with the occasional 10 win season when the depth chart aligns properly and Barry was the perfect guy for a consistent and solid program of character.
Y'all fricked up and you're only beginning to see that you might have. It will get much much worse for you in the years to come.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:57 pm to TrueLefty
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ESL high school and some other St. Louis high schools banded Missouri from any contact when Odom was the HC. After Odom firing ESL and St. Louis high schools opened up the contact with Drinkwitz! How can you explained that?
Lie. Literally an absolute lie.
Odom flipped the narrative in STL to Mizzou's favor. Fact.
ESL HC is unironically believed to be a POS by everyone that follows HS football in the midwest. Could care less what he thinks.
Drink gave a scholarship to ESL QB in hopes of reeling in their 4 star WR's and it didn't even work, 'splain that.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:47 pm to midnight special
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He had multiple OC's produce incredible offenses. The narrative that he couldn't create an offense is absurd.
He won a national recruiting battle that was much needed for the cultural perception of Mizzou football, too bad that player was not good on the field.
The QB he identified and recruited to lead his program is looking pretty darn good.
The defense was trending very much in a good direction by the end of his time at Mizzo
Did you checked his team recruiting ranking in the SEC?
Seems to be almost last in ranking and Vandy hold the last place spot. Why Odom going backwards last year going 6-6? You are full of crap! If he had stayed another year Missouri would have been another Tennessee and would not attract anyone good. When Missouri was still attractive and just getting off the bowl ban then the recruiting limits will end after this cycle. It was a very good time to do it and hit right on the mark with the hiring of Drinkwitz. Many Missouri fans are very happy and liked the way is doing with the situation and done a great job so far.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:56 pm to midnight special
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@truelefty: you're validating every point I've made here about Mizzou fans.
You're proving context is irrelevant in a decision to fire a would-be 25 year HC of destiny.
You're proving the core of your fanbase was weak enough to let an incomplete narrative grow as it did.
You're proving your fanbase was foolish enough to think they're anything but a max-out 8 win program with the occasional 10 win season when the depth chart aligns properly and Barry was the perfect guy for a consistent and solid program of character.
Y'all fricked up and you're only beginning to see that you might have. It will get much much worse for you in the years to come.
Barry was the problem why the high schools in the St. Louis area didn't want any contact to Missouri. Then Drinkwitz changed all that. Now Things are looking a lot better. Barry got Kelly Bryant! He sucks! Did you forgot about him? I am telling you there was locker room fight! That was the icing of the cake for Barry Odom as a HC at Missouri. I guess you still do not get it! Missouri needed a change before Missouri would become like Kansas, Arkansas, or Tennessee with worsten recruiting class. That is why need to stop before it happened. Made the move that is now looking bright for Missouri and the football program. You know very little of the situation!
PLEASE stop with your lies about Missouri' situation. Yes there were problems but we are just now getting back to normal. You are trying to put Missouri down for firing Odom for things that are not true! Very little was the truth.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:10 pm to midnight special
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Lie. Literally an absolute lie.
Odom flipped the narrative in STL to Mizzou's favor. Fact.
ESL HC is unironically believed to be a POS by everyone that follows HS football in the midwest. Could care less what he thinks.
Drink gave a scholarship to ESL QB in hopes of reeling in their 4 star WR's and it didn't even work, 'splain that.
Quarterback is a 4* quarterback! Drinkwitz is in his first year! He is doing great so far! I guess you will be disappointed when Drinkwitz starts getting Missouri football program that have never been to with good recruiting classes and beating some top 25 teams from time to time. He is a lot better HC than Barry Odom will ever by and Drinkwitz is in his 2nd year as an HC ever and first at Missouri. and he is doing a very good job so far! If you do not see it then you are blind!
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:25 pm to midnight special
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The problem is where you will be in 10 years.
You had someone who was committed to the next 25 years, which is exactly the blueprint Pinkel created for optimal success at a school like Mizzou.
You need to build a solid 8 win program who can hit on 10+ win season when things align properly with the depth chart.
The guy you have now is sharp in ways, but is not in it to stay.
You can think you'll be in a win-win if he does well and leaves, but I disagree and at best you're rolling the dice over and over which doesn't bode well for the odds.
Why are you so concern about Missouri? Odom blew it! He decided to stick with Bryant and never once took him out and try to win the game against Wyoming and the Kentucky game. Few others as well. He just not a good HC. Dooley copied the Air raid in a way. Running game sucks. That is where it ended. Now with Drinkwitz and the new OL coach and things are much better. This year OL men are not healthy and no depth. Why? Odom! He did not do a good job with recruiting!
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:29 pm to midnight special
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You can think you'll be in a win-win if he does well and leaves, but I disagree and at best you're rolling the dice over and over which doesn't bode well for the odds.
Why are you saying this? You worry about Arkansas and their future with Odom!
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:35 pm to Latarian
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There is literally 0 chance of this happening.
Arkansas won’t win another game all year.
'Member when you guys lost to Tennessee by 23 points?
Missouri was in the second game and still had players out due to COVID-19 and some key injuries. Also the quarterback was terrible and had to be replaced but it was way too late and the quarterback didn't get enough reps. Bazelak had no reps with the first team until after that game! He had no contact due to his knee surgery which he got it from sliding on your terrible turf last year! Thanks Arkansas!
Posted on 11/10/20 at 11:55 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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I wanna know more about KB banging the TE’s girl. How’d that go over within the locker room? Lol
Fighting!
Posted on 11/11/20 at 12:12 am to midnight special
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They didn't.
The average Mizzou fan did not understand 2015.
They didn't understand how bad the culture of their football program was, aside from the racial upheaval, which is a massive bag of issues.
They didn't understand the true nature of their recruiting issues, despite getting decently ranked classes. Many of these players that contributed to the ranking never made it to campus or left quickly.
When your starting QB is doing coke on game days and most of the campus knows about it, your program has deep rooted problems.
Barry wasn't the mob choice and therefore the mob never embraced him.
There was never the moment of something 'shiny and new', and after such a long Pinkel tenure the fanbase craved it and they finally got that 'new' feeling with Drink.
A literal book could be written on how uninformed and poorly aware the Mizzou fan base was at the time of the Pinkel-Barry transition.
I will be sure to add more as I contribute here.
ESL high school and some other St. Louis high schools banded Missouri from any contact when Odom was the HC. After Odom firing ESL and St. Louis high schools opened up the contact with Drinkwitz! How can you explained that?
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 12:13 am
Posted on 11/11/20 at 6:19 am to midnight special
Something tells me I do .
Posted on 11/11/20 at 8:46 am to Trumansfangs
The classic 8 reply in a row by True Lefty. Very impressive 
Posted on 11/11/20 at 8:57 am to midnight special
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Drink gave a scholarship to ESL QB in hopes of reeling in their 4 star WR's and it didn't even work, 'splain that.
Lol...yeah. We “gave a scholarship” to a 4* QB just to get his teammates. Hilarious
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:14 am to Razorback Reverend
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LMAO, Good Lord man, what in all of the above diatribes... makes you believe that the poster is an Arkansas fan?
Get a grip mizzou... Or has Antifa infected all of you as well?
Right. No reason to think a sock created two days ago who proceeds to make 20 posts in a thread about Mizzou melting over Odom would be an Arkansas sail.
I'm all in on him being a Mississippi State fan.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:16 am to JesusQuintana
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We “gave a scholarship” to a 4* QB just to get his teammates.
Checks notes...confirms 3* composite rating...believes OP.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:06 am to PorkSammich
I love Odom. Hard working old school coach. Wish him nothing but success and hope he does to Florida the last thing he did to Florida in the swamp.
If you watched him as a head coach the in game coaching and in his inability to make adjustments showed he just had a bad feel for a game. Every Mizzou fan from Odom apologists like me could see he would be insanely aggressive at the worst times (kicking time SCs app world returner when you finally got the lead, fake punt in the 3rd or a tie game at your own 20...) and then pathetically passive at other times (not going for it on 4th and inches against superior talent on their side). He shot himself in the foot so many times and that’s what cost him his job.
If you watched him as a head coach the in game coaching and in his inability to make adjustments showed he just had a bad feel for a game. Every Mizzou fan from Odom apologists like me could see he would be insanely aggressive at the worst times (kicking time SCs app world returner when you finally got the lead, fake punt in the 3rd or a tie game at your own 20...) and then pathetically passive at other times (not going for it on 4th and inches against superior talent on their side). He shot himself in the foot so many times and that’s what cost him his job.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:16 am to BurgTiger
No melt from this Mizzou alum. I think Barry is a good guy and I hope he's very successful (except when playing Missouri). He'll be a head coach again before too many moons.
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