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re: What do 4 of the top the 7 tacklers have in common?
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 10:04 pm to TheCheshireHog
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All coached by the GOAT DC.
Chicken Dinner
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 9:57 pm to TrueLefty
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ESL high school and some other St. Louis high schools banded Missouri from any contact when Odom was the HC. After Odom firing ESL and St. Louis high schools opened up the contact with Drinkwitz! How can you explained that?
Lie. Literally an absolute lie.
Odom flipped the narrative in STL to Mizzou's favor. Fact.
ESL HC is unironically believed to be a POS by everyone that follows HS football in the midwest. Could care less what he thinks.
Drink gave a scholarship to ESL QB in hopes of reeling in their 4 star WR's and it didn't even work, 'splain that.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 9:53 pm to TrueLefty
@truelefty: you're validating every point I've made here about Mizzou fans.
You're proving context is irrelevant in a decision to fire a would-be 25 year HC of destiny.
You're proving the core of your fanbase was weak enough to let an incomplete narrative grow as it did.
You're proving your fanbase was foolish enough to think they're anything but a max-out 8 win program with the occasional 10 win season when the depth chart aligns properly and Barry was the perfect guy for a consistent and solid program of character.
Y'all fricked up and you're only beginning to see that you might have. It will get much much worse for you in the years to come.
You're proving context is irrelevant in a decision to fire a would-be 25 year HC of destiny.
You're proving the core of your fanbase was weak enough to let an incomplete narrative grow as it did.
You're proving your fanbase was foolish enough to think they're anything but a max-out 8 win program with the occasional 10 win season when the depth chart aligns properly and Barry was the perfect guy for a consistent and solid program of character.
Y'all fricked up and you're only beginning to see that you might have. It will get much much worse for you in the years to come.
re: When did Homecoming in junior high become a thing?
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 9:45 pm to TigerVespamon
About the same time things like this become normalized and media like shown in the link cover it up as they do here.
There is a specific intention to corrupt by the same 'thing' that is currently stealing the election.
There is a specific intention to corrupt by the same 'thing' that is currently stealing the election.
What do 4 of the top the 7 tacklers have in common?
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 9:34 pm

re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 8:51 pm to Trumansfangs
Anyone who spaces between the last letter and punctuation is unironically a drooler.
Just because you made a weird thread on narcissism doesn't mean you have a working comprehension and ability to identify.
Just because you made a weird thread on narcissism doesn't mean you have a working comprehension and ability to identify.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 8:19 pm to mizslu314
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Look at our schedule, you can see exactly the night it happened. It’s actually a little funny
Funny, yes.
Funny that your fan base was so void of context that they ran off their would be 25 year HC without any concern for truth and context to the situation.
The core of Mizzou fans didn't get what they wanted when Barry was hired, so they mostly pouted until momentum picked up for him to be gone.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 7:20 pm to Athos
Trolling can't happen when literal honesty is occurring.
I'm being honest.
I'm speaking the truth.
Nothing I've said isn't true.
And it's bothering you.
MIZ-C-O-P-E
Cope Mizzou.
I'm being honest.
I'm speaking the truth.
Nothing I've said isn't true.
And it's bothering you.
MIZ-C-O-P-E
Cope Mizzou.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 7:13 pm to Athos
I thought Missourians were supposed to be the civilized and educated yanks.
You sound like you involuntarily drool.
Looks like you're incapable of generating thoughts and turning them into written words that retort my points.
Thanks for not coping, more fun for me.
You sound like you involuntarily drool.
Looks like you're incapable of generating thoughts and turning them into written words that retort my points.
Thanks for not coping, more fun for me.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 7:04 pm to Athos
Cope
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 7:02 pm to Athos
Cope more.
You dropped a guy who's been one of the best coaching stories of this season.
Everyone has every right to laugh at you.
You dropped a guy who's been one of the best coaching stories of this season.
Everyone has every right to laugh at you.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 6:48 pm to Mizz-SEC
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As a Mizzou alum Odom was largely celebrated as a good hire under the circumstances.
Most fans wished he would have had previous head coaching experience and as it turned out that concern was correct. He was still making the same kind of in-game mistakes in Year Four as he was in Year One and allowed DLineZou to deteriorate (among other things).
It's a shame it didn't work out. Most fans really wanted to believe.
Odom was unironically fought against by your fanbase during your search process - FACT. I followed the process. Can't rewrite history.
Odom was not happily rejoiced and welcomed as the new coach - it was more of a drag than a hopeful and happy moment.
In fact it occurred at a time of unprecedented apathy across the entire state, which is worse than hatred.
Important contextual fact: After nearly 20 years of Pinkel you missed out on that 'new' moment with Barry because he was already a Mizzou guy AND it happened under such a negative and apathetic environment.
There was no splash and the entire state was sour at Mizzou.
Fans were vowing to be done forever - many of them have come around now that everyone has seen just how crazy the entire world has gotten - funny how 2015 at Mizzou now seems so long ago and not really that big of a deal.
Mizzou fans refuse to understand the scope of damage during 2015 AND the damage leading up to it that involved your HC getting a DUI and starting QB doing coke on game days. The paper recruiting classes that didn't materialize to those athletes being the team. There was MASSIVE trouble in Columbia for years and Barry was left with the mess and managed to build a strong foundation that Drink now gets to use as a launching point.
What we just established:
The Mizzou fan base did not want Odom to be the HC during the hiring process, and once named HC it was met mostly with disapproval or apathy.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 3:14 pm to JesusQuintana
Was there excitement in year one of Barry's tenure? No. So don't tell me about lack of excitement in the last year.
The overwhelming core of Mizzou fans thought they deserved an established, high profile head coach after Pinkel's success.
They didn't get that, so they pouted and looked for any and all reason to push Barry down with zero effort to understand context or issues within the program.
Barry dealt with immeasurable and measurable challenges that are both largely ignored by the so called fans of Mizzou.
The overwhelming core of Mizzou fans thought they deserved an established, high profile head coach after Pinkel's success.
They didn't get that, so they pouted and looked for any and all reason to push Barry down with zero effort to understand context or issues within the program.
Barry dealt with immeasurable and measurable challenges that are both largely ignored by the so called fans of Mizzou.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 3:00 pm to JesusQuintana
That's all 'cope'.
And it's 100% due to a lack of understanding by the collective core of your fanbase.
You will never even attempt to understand the true situation with your program in 2015.
You won't acknowledge the battle to overcome racial and deep cultural issues, rebuilding a stadium, not having a locker room, NCAA investigations that he had nothing to do with.
He turned the narrative in your state around through effort and finally started winning those recruiting battles - again, failure to understand 2015.
He proved over and over to finding great talent out of state - Rakestraw is an example of such a find that others later covet.
Mizzou fans failed him, period.
The circumstances were extreme and never understood.
Through it all, the arrow was pointing up and foundation was growing stronger.
He really should have been allowed to see through his first true QB recruit.
And it's 100% due to a lack of understanding by the collective core of your fanbase.
You will never even attempt to understand the true situation with your program in 2015.
You won't acknowledge the battle to overcome racial and deep cultural issues, rebuilding a stadium, not having a locker room, NCAA investigations that he had nothing to do with.
He turned the narrative in your state around through effort and finally started winning those recruiting battles - again, failure to understand 2015.
He proved over and over to finding great talent out of state - Rakestraw is an example of such a find that others later covet.
Mizzou fans failed him, period.
The circumstances were extreme and never understood.
Through it all, the arrow was pointing up and foundation was growing stronger.
He really should have been allowed to see through his first true QB recruit.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 2:46 pm to sarasotatiger
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I do not think that it has or will set us back. WE are about the same place as we were. I think that Next year or the following Barry will get another opportunity.
The problem is where you will be in 10 years.
You had someone who was committed to the next 25 years, which is exactly the blueprint Pinkel created for optimal success at a school like Mizzou.
You need to build a solid 8 win program who can hit on 10+ win season when things align properly with the depth chart.
The guy you have now is sharp in ways, but is not in it to stay.
You can think you'll be in a win-win if he does well and leaves, but I disagree and at best you're rolling the dice over and over which doesn't bode well for the odds.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 2:43 pm to mizslu314
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Im confused here. tRant said our offense was awful, and only good against the buy-in games, so which one is it?
Why don't you have self agency and your own beliefs?
Or revert to stats, even.
Mizzou had offense under Barry, a defensive specialist.
They got F'd on a raw deal with Kelly Bryant in 2019, but the foundation was as strong as ever under him and moving in the right direction.
Bazelak was the guy he chose to be his program leader, he didn't even get a chance to have his first true QB recruit take the ball.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 1:49 pm to mizslu314
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T or F, Head coaches are responsible for their coordinators
He had multiple OC's produce incredible offenses. The narrative that he couldn't create an offense is absurd.
He won a national recruiting battle that was much needed for the cultural perception of Mizzou football, too bad that player was not good on the field.
The QB he identified and recruited to lead his program is looking pretty darn good.
The defense was trending very much in a good direction by the end of his time at Mizzou.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 1:45 pm to Trumansfangs
They didn't.
The average Mizzou fan did not understand 2015.
They didn't understand how bad the culture of their football program was, aside from the racial upheaval, which is a massive bag of issues.
They didn't understand the true nature of their recruiting issues, despite getting decently ranked classes. Many of these players that contributed to the ranking never made it to campus or left quickly.
When your starting QB is doing coke on game days and most of the campus knows about it, your program has deep rooted problems.
Barry wasn't the mob choice and therefore the mob never embraced him.
There was never the moment of something 'shiny and new', and after such a long Pinkel tenure the fanbase craved it and they finally got that 'new' feeling with Drink.
A literal book could be written on how uninformed and poorly aware the Mizzou fan base was at the time of the Pinkel-Barry transition.
I will be sure to add more as I contribute here.
The average Mizzou fan did not understand 2015.
They didn't understand how bad the culture of their football program was, aside from the racial upheaval, which is a massive bag of issues.
They didn't understand the true nature of their recruiting issues, despite getting decently ranked classes. Many of these players that contributed to the ranking never made it to campus or left quickly.
When your starting QB is doing coke on game days and most of the campus knows about it, your program has deep rooted problems.
Barry wasn't the mob choice and therefore the mob never embraced him.
There was never the moment of something 'shiny and new', and after such a long Pinkel tenure the fanbase craved it and they finally got that 'new' feeling with Drink.
A literal book could be written on how uninformed and poorly aware the Mizzou fan base was at the time of the Pinkel-Barry transition.
I will be sure to add more as I contribute here.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 1:39 pm to Mizzou Okie
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Yea; he's a coaching genius alright. Don't know how we couldn't see it ..
He was the best coach for Mizzou, and you threw him out.
Many variables played into a false narrative spreading like wildfire.
MANY people in football see it, too bad the people that were supposed to see it the clearest couldn't, and still don't.
You will pay with suffering.
re: How bad are Mizzou fans going to melt when Odom
Posted by midnight special on 11/10/20 at 12:11 pm to Wtodd
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I don't wish BO anything but the best of luck
Very admirable for someone who likely participated in the mob that got him fired.
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