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How about this Auburn controversy
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:09 pm
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A Wisconsin-based secular group announced Tuesday that it is fighting the religious culture in Auburn University’s football program.
The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) said in a press release that it sent Auburn an open records request in 2014, asking for information related to football chaplain Chette Williams.
The church-and-state watchdog decided to continue its efforts “to stop the unconstitutionally excessive piety in Auburn University’s football program” after a video surfaced of Williams leading the team in prayer before Auburn’s Homecoming game against Southern Mississippi on Sept. 29.
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:10 pm to AU24
Yea we need to keep it because the team that prays the most always wins. (Rolls eyes). This holier than thou attitude, and the mix of church and college football has always made me dislike auburn a little bit more.
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:11 pm to AU24
Ridiculous.
I’m no Auburn apologist but that’s just stupid and the fact that it is even an issue tells you all you need to know about what is wrong with America.
I’m no Auburn apologist but that’s just stupid and the fact that it is even an issue tells you all you need to know about what is wrong with America.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:11 pm to AU24
If this becomes an actual legal battle, it is one battle that I hope Auburn wins.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:13 pm to AU24
Auburn should tell them to suck satan's dick and take it to the supreme court where kavavaugh will have the swing vote.
Your lawyers may even be able to stall this a couple months longer waiting for SDO to disintegrate.
Your lawyers may even be able to stall this a couple months longer waiting for SDO to disintegrate.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:13 pm to deeprig9
Elections matter.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:14 pm to AU24
You guys also have a professor suing the University for discrimination.
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:18 pm to secuniversity
I read recently where Coach Saban has just filed suit against the city of Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:20 pm to AU24
I'll ride along. They did the same thing at the school my kids go to. Shut down student led prayer over the PA system before football games. And I'm sure they really thought they had a big victory when the superintendent nixed the prayer. But what they didn't forsee is a stadium full of people on both sides saying the Lord's Prayer in unison. Pretty cool.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:22 pm to AU24
How about yawn?
If it is just a pregame prayer, who cares. If it is excessive though, I do think we should get rid of it and Chette or whatever. 40% of the players probably dont believe in God as anyway as I think that is about the percentage of people who dont believe in God. So I could see it as being annoying.
But mostly again, yawn.
If it is just a pregame prayer, who cares. If it is excessive though, I do think we should get rid of it and Chette or whatever. 40% of the players probably dont believe in God as anyway as I think that is about the percentage of people who dont believe in God. So I could see it as being annoying.
But mostly again, yawn.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:23 pm to AU24
This world is going to crap.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:27 pm to Lg
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I'll ride along. They did the same thing at the school my kids go to. Shut down student led prayer over the PA system before football games. And I'm sure they really thought they had a big victory when the superintendent nixed the prayer. But what they didn't forsee is a stadium full of people on both sides saying the Lord's Prayer in unison. Pretty cool.
That’s the point though. If the people want to do it, more power to them. It just can’t be led and promoted by any government funded body. That is the definition of separation of church and state. The government can’t favor or push the agenda of one religion over another.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:31 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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If this becomes an actual legal battle, it is one battle that I hope Auburn wins.
I have zero power over any of this but for what it is worth, I hope Auburn wins on this one.
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:33 pm to AU24
Don't these people have anything better to do in their lives? They tried to stop some metro Atlanta high schools from having graduations in this giant megachurch a couple of years ago (oh the horror).
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:34 pm to AU24
This battle is one i hope Auburn wins.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:37 pm to AU24
Bama fan here and And I can tell you it is no one's business in Wisc how AU nor their football players and coaches choose to express faith. Mind your own affairs.
How ever being a friend of Pat Dye's I can tell you this. A big part of the religious atmosphere and activity around the AU football program has to do with recruiting. Simply because black people in the south, especially black women who control most of the families are extremely religious. And they want to send their son to play football to a place where religion comes first. And the coaches and admins at AU understand that perhaps better than any other D1 football school.
How ever being a friend of Pat Dye's I can tell you this. A big part of the religious atmosphere and activity around the AU football program has to do with recruiting. Simply because black people in the south, especially black women who control most of the families are extremely religious. And they want to send their son to play football to a place where religion comes first. And the coaches and admins at AU understand that perhaps better than any other D1 football school.
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:37 pm to AshLSU
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That is the definition of separation of church and state.
Nope. That is no where near what it means and I'm not going to get into here but the first words are "Congress shall make no law". How can they still have a prayer before a session in Congress, the very seat of our government, but not a football game?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:37 pm to AshLSU
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That’s the point though. If the people want to do it, more power to them. It just can’t be led and promoted by any government funded body. That is the definition of separation of church and state. The government can’t favor or push the agenda of one religion over another
^This.
Do we really want to live in a theocracy like the Middle East? The players and the fans have the freedom to exercise their religion because they're not employees of the University that's supposed to represent everybody equally. No problem with the fans and the players praying but anybody employed or contracted with the University should not be organizing or leading it.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:41 pm to Lg
Do you understand how court precedent works?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:41 pm to AU24
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