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re: Honestly, does A&M have a QB to make a run?

Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:23 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:23 am to
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Is QB important? Georgia won it all without one.


we also had one of the best defenses CFB has seen in the last few decades.

As someone else said earlier, if you don't have an elite stud QB you better be elite at pretty much everywhere else. A&M clearly and 100% does not have a bryce/tua/lawrence/burrow/watson level QB, which means you probably better have the best defense you've ever fielded in school history. Will you have that this season?
Posted by CrunchimusMaximusThe
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:24 am to
I don't see Jimbo winning squat unless he gets a Johnny Manzeil type fluke of talent. As far as elite QB goes they are an SEC team in Texas. No excuses. There should already be at least one on their roster. Proves Jimbo is incompetent.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:46 am to
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Or maybe LSU is a dumpster fire and he realky likes living in Texas. Hard to comprehend for you, I know, but it’s not your fault.

It’s not. your. fault.


Yet he just lost to that dumpster fire.


Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2514 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:53 am to
Had we had a QB this last year we probably would have made the playoffs.
Posted by Referee
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2021
3010 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:03 am to
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Had we had a QB this last year we probably would have made the playoffs.


Uh, no.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6051 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:04 am to
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Is QB important? Georgia won it all without one.

QB is important. Bennet was third in YPA and didn’t turn the ball over often. You don’t need a heisman winning QB to win it, but you still need quality QB play.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:09 am to
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Had we had a QB this last year we probably would have made the playoffs.


Calzada was good enough to beat Alabama.



He played well vs LSU


Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8323 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:13 am to
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we also had one of the best defenses CFB has seen in the last few decades. As someone else said earlier, if you don't have an elite stud QB you better be elite at pretty much everywhere else. A&M clearly and 100% does not have a bryce/tua/lawrence/burrow/watson level QB, which means you probably better have the best defense you've ever fielded in school history. Will you have that this season?


I agree with all of this. Without elite QB play,
It will be tough. A&M isn’t quite as well rounded as UGA based on the recruiting rankings, but is getting pretty close. The 3 recruiting classes prior to this class have been decent.

However, Weigman is thought to be elite. His HS tape looks like he carried an average team on his shoulders.
Posted by Stew2581
Covington
Member since Oct 2021
1026 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:27 am to
You can see the future? You have no way of knowing if that Weigman kid will pan out any better than you know the winning lotto numbers. Do you think if Ohio State knew what Joe Burrow would be they would have let him go? Not a chance. That kid could flame out after 2 games in a blaze of INTS. Right now you nothing. King may end up being better that all of them you don't know. Johnson has proven to be inept at leading much however he did beat yall with backups everywhere and a lame duck staff. You tell me does that mean he is better than he seems or that aTm was a crap team?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39538 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:29 am to
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You have no way of knowing if that Weigman kid will pan out any better than you know the winning lotto numbers


The chance of a 5* QB being good is a lot higher than winning the lottery.

You sir are very dumb
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Stew2581
Covington
Member since Oct 2021
1026 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:42 am to
Just because he is a 5 star recruit means nothing. Plenty of them have gone on to flame out or be average. Calling him a future Heisman candidate before he has ever taken a snap makes you look dumb. Burrow won it and was barely a 3 star so your logic is horribly flawed. Justin Jefferson blew up in College and now in the NFL and was a 2 star nobody wanted, again you sir are an idiot with that flawed logic.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5424 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:42 am to
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You have no way of knowing if that Weigman kid will pan out any better than you know the winning lotto numbers.


Well I can watch him throw a frozen rope on a 15 yard out from the opposite hash, then make an exceptional touch throw on the same drive. I can see that he has the size. I can see that he has the mobility. I saw that he was the best QB in the UA All-American Game playing against the best recruits in the country. You don’t have to be a genius to see he has Heisman potential.

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Do you think if Ohio State knew what Joe Burrow would be they would have let him go? Not a chance.


Schools misjudge talent all the time. Baker Mayfield was a 2 time walk on. Von Miller was a 3 star prospect. Johnny Manziel was a 3 star. Those were all guys that were underrated, not overrated.

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King may end up being better that all of them you don't know.


This could be true, and we have limited game film on him. But the film we do have, he was leading solid drives and ended up turning the ball over trying to do too much. If he can stay healthy and know when to give up on a play, I think he will be great.

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Johnson has proven to be inept at leading much however he did beat yall with backups everywhere and a lame duck staff. You tell me does that mean he is better than he seems or that aTm was a crap team?


Johnson is a serviceable SEC QB. Calzada is not. Jimbo refused to dumb down our offense to fit Calzadas limited skill set from the neck up and managed to “outsmart” himself nearly all season. That is about 90% of the reason we lost to LSU this year. The other 10% is that the team seemed like they didn’t have much left to play for and came out completely flat in that game. That’s on everybody involved.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
24695 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:59 am to
It's possible. We will know more after Spring football ... For those that don't understand Weigman's potential, the kid was EVERYTHING to his football team in HS. They were average at best without him. Every loss they had last year, he was injured and sitting the bench.

Weigman is the best QB from the last class. He had squat to work with unlike Klubnik, which is impressive. BTW, his childhood friend and best WR is a preferred walk-on at A&M as well
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 10:08 am
Posted by Stew2581
Covington
Member since Oct 2021
1026 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:07 am to
Again calling him a future Heisman is stupid until he actually takes snap period. His first snap could be an INT!

The list of can't miss prospects in high school that were huge busts in college is long so counting chickens before they are hatched is fools gold. Walker Howard is a 5 star but until he does anything at the college level I'm not calling him a future anything.

Here are a few 5 star busts for you from just this last decade.

MITCH MUSTAIN, QB, ARKANSAS, No. 2 pro-style QB in 2006
DAYNE CRIST, QB, NOTRE DAME, No. 1 pro-style QB in 2008
TYLER LOVE, OT, ALABAMA, No. 3 offensive tackle in 2008
AARON CORP, QB, USC, No. 3 pro-style QB in 2007
WHITNEY LEWIS, WR, USC, No. 1 WR in 2003
FRED ROUSE, WR, FLORIDA STATE, No. 3 wide receiver in 2005
RYAN PERRILLOUX, QB, LSU, No. 1 dual-threat QB in 2005
MAX BROWNE, QB, USC, No. 1 pro-style QB in 2013
BLAKE BARNETT, QB, ALABAMA, No. 1 pro-style QB in 2017
Tommy Grady, QB, Oklahoma/Utah,
James Banks, QB, Tennessee
Anthony Morrelli, QB, Penn State
Rocky Hinds, QB, USC/UNLV
Rhett Bomar, QB, Oklahoma/Sam Houston
Kyle Wright, QB, Miami
Ben Olson, QB, UCLA/BYU

There are so many more but I'm tired of listing them.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8323 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:11 am to
Right - so cancel all threads speculating on any school’s future success due to the unknowns
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5424 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:16 am to
Is it just me or are there less busts at the QB position as time goes on? It seems like both at the college and NFL level teams have gotten better at evaluating talent and the players are entering the next level more ready to play.

Not saying there aren’t busts, just saying it seems like they are less frequent.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 10:17 am
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2095 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:17 am to
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UGA is a lot like Bama pre-Tua. You can win a national title without elite QB play, but you better be elite at practically every other position. I'm talking a mauling run game and a defense that crushes opponents before the game even starts. I'm not so sure aTm has that yet.


I was kind of joking with my first message. If we we’re strong in all other areas it’s still a big gauntlet to beat.

We would have to get by both in the regular season. Georgia actually did not get by just one but since the other conferences had no one got in the playoff. And then won the rematch.

My opinion is a top QB will be required to get through both and the playoff.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 10:19 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39538 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:22 am to
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Just because he is a 5 star recruit means nothing


Again for you…the chance of a 5* QB working is a lot higher than picking lotto numbers. That was a very ignorant and general Cajun dumbass statement you made
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:23 am to
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The chance of a 5* QB being good is a lot higher than winning the lottery.

You sir are very dumb

If there's any college where a high 4/5 star quarterback recruit will go to die, it's Texas A&m or a Jimbo Fisher led team

Kenny Hill
Kyle Allen
Kyler Murray
Mond
James Foster
Deandre Francois
Malik Henry

This is the very long list of highly ranked quarterbacks to play for A&m/Jimbo who have done nothing but fail under their guidance.
quote:

the chance of a 5* QB working is a lot higher than picking lotto numbers.

Well with picking the lotto numbers, there's actually a chance at being successful. Since 2013, that doesn't look to be the case for Jimbo/atm
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 10:25 am
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