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re: Honest opinion from non lsu/bama fans
Posted on 7/19/19 at 7:56 am to Sampson
Posted on 7/19/19 at 7:56 am to Sampson
21-0, because LSU had already beaten that team and they did not deserve to be in the national championship game anyway. It was BS to make LSU play them again, when they'd already beaten them once. So you finish 1-1 against a team on the season, and that team is the "champ". C'mon mane.
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:10 am to NonSense
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I promise if Bama/Clemson face off again this year it’ll be equally lopsided the other way.
I'll take that bet.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:10 am to Sampson
Worse loss as in more embarrassing? Or worst loss as in what hurt more?
21-0 had to hurt more. Playing a rival team you already beat (coached by your former coach) after the best season in program history, and then losing the title to them anyway.
The Clemson loss was sprinkled in amongst a run of titles for Bama. And it just clearly looked like Clemson was the better team. Can’t be upset about that.
LSU had shown they could beat Bama, so to lose in that situation given the rest of the circumstances was really hard to swallow.
As far as more embarrassing - I don’t know. Both are pretty embarrassing. I’d say LSU had the worse showing of the two. But Bama was a favorite and a lot of people thought they’d destroy Clemson, while the opposite happened
21-0 had to hurt more. Playing a rival team you already beat (coached by your former coach) after the best season in program history, and then losing the title to them anyway.
The Clemson loss was sprinkled in amongst a run of titles for Bama. And it just clearly looked like Clemson was the better team. Can’t be upset about that.
LSU had shown they could beat Bama, so to lose in that situation given the rest of the circumstances was really hard to swallow.
As far as more embarrassing - I don’t know. Both are pretty embarrassing. I’d say LSU had the worse showing of the two. But Bama was a favorite and a lot of people thought they’d destroy Clemson, while the opposite happened
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:12 am to texag7
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I’d rather not go
Luckily for you, you’re a tamu fan.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:15 am to Sampson
21-0 our defense played their arse off and it wasn’t until a late in the 4th quarter that a TD was scored.
44-16 was a domination in all aspects of the game.
But 21-0 hurts far worse to me
44-16 was a domination in all aspects of the game.
But 21-0 hurts far worse to me
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:17 am to Oilfieldbiology
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21-0 our defense played their arse off and it wasn’t until a late in the 4th quarter that a TD was scored. 44-16 was a domination in all aspects of the game.
Are you really going to try to say that what Bama did to LSU wasn't a domination? It is possibly the most dominating NC in modern history.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:24 am to BoerneAg
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on bama LSU domination. Most dominating game in N.C. history
Everyone has an opinion but aggy isn’t going to let an LSU-bama thread just slide on by.
It’s like you can set your watch to it about 12 times a day.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:25 am to AHM21
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Alabama had over 400 yards of offense against Clemson.
LSU got shut out, crossed midfield once and didn’t reach 100 yards. LSU had five first downs:
All of that and LSU was still closer to winning in the end than Bama was. At least LSU's defense fought hard and kept it close with a garbage offense. It was only 9-0 at half (though 9 felt like 30) and it was only a two score game until under five minutes left in the game. Bama's best offense ever and their defense were both complete garbage. Clemson had 31 at half and it was 44-16 with 20 minutes left to play in the game. It was completely over at that point.
Truthfully, LSU's performance was laughable on offense and it was a completely pathetic showing in a title game, but given that they had 35 yards passing in the SEC title game, it wasn't that shocking. What Clemson did to Bama was completely shocking though. But I'm an LSU fan and the question wasn't for me, so I can't say which was worse. I only know that they both sucked balls.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 8:46 am to Big EZ Tiger
Everyone keeps saying the 21-0 game set LSU back years. I don't think that's true, I think the loss the following year was much more damaging to the program, and that is what set LSU back.
They were both shitty performances.
21-0 was worse. We ran Jefferson 15 times, and our best RB had 5 carries. It's almost like we just didn't want to play Bama again.
They were both shitty performances.
21-0 was worse. We ran Jefferson 15 times, and our best RB had 5 carries. It's almost like we just didn't want to play Bama again.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:18 am to Sampson
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What was a worse loss 21-0 or 44-16?
I'd say equal. Both were embarrassing. But not crossing the 50 until late in the game has to tip the scale to 21-0.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:22 am to Sampson
While I gained more personal enjoyment from 44-16, 21-0 had to be a tougher loss because it was a mulligan game, effectively erasing that regular season that would have gone down as one of the greatest.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:22 am to Sampson
Any time you get shut out, even if it's 3-0 or 7-0...that's bad. Getting beat 44-16 isn't pleasant, either, but at least you scored.
While both aren't pretty, I'd say the 21-0 score is the worst of the two.
While both aren't pretty, I'd say the 21-0 score is the worst of the two.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:29 am to Sampson
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What was a worse loss 21-0 or 44-16?
There is literally no justification whatsoever for anything other than 21-0.
-For starters, bama actually moved the ball with ease between the 20s. They were just constantly fricked over by poor throws, uncharacteristic turnovers, head scracthing playcalls, and elite performance by clemson. Yardage was jsut about even. Somethign like that you can just chalk up to having a bad day and move on.
-Bama has a barrel of titles lately and will probably be in contention for several more as long as saban is there. They also have a natty over clemson and beat the shite out of clemson their last time out. LSU hasn't seriously challeneged for a title since 21-0
-LSU had been losing to bama for a while and then finally beat them in a game for the ages, only to lose to them when it really mattered
-LSU didn't score a damn point and barely crossed midfield all game, only once IIRC if at all
-That 2011 LSU team was on the way to making a case for one of the best seasons in CFB history, and by far the best ever in baton rouge. They beat multiple ocnference champs and ran roughshod over jsut about everyone that year, then laid an egg in the title game
-Goes without saying but losing to bama was the worst conceivable team they coudl have lost to, beign rivals and having saban and all
-The game was played in their backyard
-THey refused to make adjustments and pull their QB that had no business playing in that game
-Clemson was a great team that bama can say they just lost to a better tema that day. LSU had alreayd beaten bama in tuscalososa.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 11:39 am
Posted on 7/19/19 at 12:29 pm to Sampson
A shut out is always worse. With the other, at least they scored.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:08 pm to Sampson
One was a comprehensive arse whipping, the other was decided by third down conversions and turnovers. It’s in the eye of the beholder I guess. Would you rather be slowly pulled into a wood chipper or bleed out from numerous long range gunshot wounds to non vital areas?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:17 pm to texag7
quote:Funny to most LSU fans...your opinion of LSU is worthless and means nothing
I’d rather not go than get there and score 0 points. 21-0 is absolutely embarrassing
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:32 pm to Dennis4LSU
funny how most of the replies are from LSU and Bama fans trying to justify one or the other 
Trying to look from the outside in, I'd say 21-0 was worse. Bama/Clemson has been 2-2 recently, and both have won multiple titles.
21-0 took the magic out of what might have been the greatest regular season run in college football history. LSU played a who's-who that year, and beat them all.
For nothing.
Trying to look from the outside in, I'd say 21-0 was worse. Bama/Clemson has been 2-2 recently, and both have won multiple titles.
21-0 took the magic out of what might have been the greatest regular season run in college football history. LSU played a who's-who that year, and beat them all.
For nothing.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:36 pm to Chimlim
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Everyone keeps saying the 21-0 game set LSU back years. I don't think that's true
Uh...we had regressed every year since then up until Oeaux came in.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:38 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Before Jan 9 2012 many people considered LSU the king of college football. They were #1 & had beaten Bama 2 yrs in a row.
That 1 game ended a great run LSU had been on. Les's coaching became monotonous, the swagger & mojo on the field was never the same. The LSU/Bama game is still one of the more physical games played all year. Even with Bama's 8 yr run they usually come out of the game trying to recover from the physicality of the game.
Most games between 2 equal teams comes down to who was in better shape health wise, better prepared & wants it more. Bama simply got outcoached & played on Jan 7 so congrats to Clemson. Series is now 2-2. It won't surprise any of us if they face off once again for series tie breaker.
That 1 game ended a great run LSU had been on. Les's coaching became monotonous, the swagger & mojo on the field was never the same. The LSU/Bama game is still one of the more physical games played all year. Even with Bama's 8 yr run they usually come out of the game trying to recover from the physicality of the game.
Most games between 2 equal teams comes down to who was in better shape health wise, better prepared & wants it more. Bama simply got outcoached & played on Jan 7 so congrats to Clemson. Series is now 2-2. It won't surprise any of us if they face off once again for series tie breaker.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:45 pm to WG_Dawg
I agree with a lot of what you say, but actually at that point in time LSU hadn’t been losing to Bama for awhile before beating them in the GOTC like you said. Before that game was played, LSU was 2-2 against Saban at bama and by winning in the 9-6 game Miles actually had a 3-2 advantage. 21-0 was the shittiest sporting event I’ve ever had to endure (losing to Troy was almost as bad but not quite) and because it ruined such a special season for us, I think it hurts more than 44-16. Bama fans know going into this year they’ll be the favorites once again just like every year so it probably doesn’t matter that much.
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