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Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:12 pm to tampajoe
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:12 pm to tampajoe
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You're okay with the fact that it seems your school is committing violations
No - I'm not and he's not nor are you or any shmuck on this site. Alabama isn't ok with it nor is Auburn, LSU nor any other school.
Clay Travis makes money getting shmucks like you and TigerBob and PenisTom to "talk" about it. He doesn't care if its true or false just that you click on it.
Do you honestly believe that Alabama or any other university would turn a blind eye to its players doing it or even allow a "rogue booster" to continue unabated without several lawyers insuring that said actions didn't interfere with the schools ability to continue to make millions - especially if it was a rinse and repeat buffoon like Al Betar?
Please... Clay Travis continues to play people you for tools and he laughs about it over drinks. I know.
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:14 pm to wdeinttown
The auburn posting is exactly like the Alabama posting, I mean it isn't like this is only a problem at Alabama. Shady guys gonna be Shady.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:15 pm to wdeinttown
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Fixed it for you.
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As an AU fan, I wanted to get to the bottom of the Cam allegations as soon as we can no longer get in trouble for it
No, you didn't fix it for me. That was my feeling at the time. No one wants to get in trouble, but if someone breaks a rule, the punishment should come down. And it should come down fairly for all schools, following the rules the NCAA has set up themselves. Otherwise, chaos reigns - and unfortunately it does.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:16 pm to tampajoe
quote:Is this dealer using Nick Marshall's name and image to sell items. Isn't he a current player for AU?
(using current players to endorse a business is an NCAA violation)?
Auburn Under Armour Storm Gear Nick Marshall style 1/4 zip pullover
Auburn Under Armour Storm Gear Nick Marshall style complete suit
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:17 pm to WDE24
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WDE24
Honestly, I could care less what the players do. It happens EVERYWHERE! My point was the guy went on this high-horse tantrum about it, when someone associated, for lack of a better word, with Auburn is doing the same thing.
Clay is going to "write" stories that gets his website hits. He never digs into anything on his own, not a Charles Robinson type guy, but more of a guy that takes tips off twitter and half asses a "story" making assumptions and everything else.
Honestly, name me the most passionate fanbase in college football? Now, college basketball? Now, the NFL?
You think there is a reason he had them 1 and 2 in his fanbase list? Of course there was, hits on his blog. I don't go to his site but I am sure the Steelers were on there. He is always ripping on them.
*Disclaimer, his listing is probably correct with Bama being number 1, seeing as how more and more stories come out in regards to things some of the crazier fans have done. Additionally, I give him credit, he somehow gets people to visit his site and make a living off of it.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:19 pm to Aman
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Really, this should just open the door for active paying of players and breaking rules by everyone. And I guess it has. Some are more blatant than others. Glad you're proud of it.
What player on Alabama's football team is profiting from this?
Well, who knows who's profiting? That's why there should be an investigation - like there is for anything similar at other schools - to see if there is a real violation. After all, it "seems" to be wrong for so many players (but only the good ones with valuable autographs) to hang out in a clothing store for no reason but because Tom's a cool guy and all.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:19 pm to JB Bama
quote:Close, but not exactly the same.
The auburn posting is exactly like the Alabama posting
The Alabama posting has an inordinate amount of signed, game worn memorabilia from known current players being offered for sale by a person who was specifically instructed by the University not to do so because it could endanger the program and/or the specific athletes.
The Auburn posting is 1 game worn jersey signed by an unknown player from an unknown seller. It may be from someone that is now a former player.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:19 pm to NYCAuburn
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is the NCAA selling game worn autographed merchandise?
I don't think they ever sold "game worn" stuff, but they definitely sold jerseys and profited from specific player's names. E.g. you could search for "Manziel" and get a #2 jersey with the name="Football". If anybody else had done this it would have been scandalous. They're powerless on this Bama deal because of their own actions.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:21 pm to WDE24
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The Auburn posting is 1 game worn jersey signed by an unknown player from an unknown seller. It may be from someone that is now a former player.
If he is a former player, why the issue not to show the name? Seems like a smart business move in terms of possible buyers to let them know what jersey they will be getting.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:21 pm to OnTheBrink
quote:Probably Keihl Frazier or Jake Holland.
why the issue not to show the name?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:22 pm to jatebe
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Is this dealer using Nick Marshall's name and image to sell items. Isn't he a current player for AU?
Is nick marshall endorsing it? has this company/individual been dealt with before by the university ?
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:22 pm to WDE24
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Probably Keihl Frazier or Jake Holland
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:22 pm to OnTheBrink
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tampajoe
You okay with this? From a couple of posts up.
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No, I'm not okay if it's a current player and a violation. If the NCAA investigates it and finds something wrong, so be it. People know.
If my school was disassociating a booster (why?) and that booster was doing the same thing he was disassociated for and having contact with current players (which he was ordered not to do), I would worry and NOT be good with it.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:23 pm to finestfirst79
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I don't think they ever sold "game worn" stuff, but they definitely sold jerseys and profited from specific player's names. E.g. you could search for "Manziel" and get a #2 jersey with the name="Football". If anybody else had done this it would have been scandalous. They're powerless on this Bama deal because of their own actions.
so they were doing nothing like what is happening here.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:28 pm to NYCAuburn
Show of hands: Who actually thinks Bama gets in trouble for this? Not who wants Bama to get in trouble. Who ACTUALLY thinks something happens?
My hand isn't up. I don't expect any trouble for the Tide. At all.
And BTW - since when is Clay Travis a respected journalist? He'll hit all of our programs at some point (except you, Tennessee. he loves you).
My hand isn't up. I don't expect any trouble for the Tide. At all.
And BTW - since when is Clay Travis a respected journalist? He'll hit all of our programs at some point (except you, Tennessee. he loves you).
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:28 pm to WDE24
Obviously photoshopped. Nick Saban doesn't smile.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:28 pm to tampajoe
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If my school was disassociating a booster (why?) and that booster was doing the same thing he was disassociated for and having contact with current players (which he was ordered not to do), I would worry and NOT be good with it.
Listen, I have not been to Clay's blog in the past year or two. So I have no idea what the "article" said, but I am sure there are plenty of holes in it due to the lack of research Clay does. I can imagine Clay getting the tip in his twitter with a few pictures and then writing a story on nothing but assumption.
Honestly, I trust Coach Saban and everyone with ties to the Athletic Department that everything is in order. Or, as close to in order as it can be.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:29 pm to Meno's Paradox
bama wont, but a player might be suspended for up to 5 games if anything does
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:31 pm to NYCAuburn
Can someone break down for me what's going on in this thread?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:32 pm to stat19
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Clay Travis makes money getting shmucks like you and TigerBob and PenisTom to "talk" about it. He doesn't care if its true or false just that you click on it.
I care not one whit about Clay Travis and whether he lies or tells the truth. I do remember a picture though (which doesn't lie) of a current (at the time - Trent or Julio or somebody) Alabama player standing at a table signing a jersey. There were stacks of jerseys beside him and boxes of jerseys at his feet. Tom was standing there watching him. What is the difference between this and what Manziel was alleged to have done in the hotel room that garnered so much criticism.
Right or wrong, it's the double standard that is galling. The majority of programs would not dare let a disassociated booster run a store selling merchandise just because of the impropriety of it - how it looks. Bammer has the lawyers to find the loopholes, I guess, and if players are profiting from signing autographs, that is an extra benefit the honest programs don't have.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:35 pm
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