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re: Here's a copy of the MOU. Greg Schiano is not going to get anything from VOLS lmao

Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:28 am to
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:28 am to
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The courts will view it as any of the names printed were able to sign the MOU and make it binding.


They won't, actually, because that is not at all how it works. The contract is a complete instrument. From the first letter to the last one. Therefore, any signatures required therein must ALL be satisfied in order for the instrument to be considered a binding contract.

So yeah, 1 man cannot sign away 27 million dollars from a university that has safeguards in place, like requiring multiple signatures. Sorry Greg, but you're gonna have to get a job at a pedophile friendly school.
Posted by thecoachcarter
Highland Park
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:29 am to
Schiano would have been a great hire...too bad the moonshiners of Vol nation use their "magic 8-ball" and spray paint inhalant to influence their head coach choices.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:33 am to
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Schiano would have been a great hire...too bad the moonshiners of Vol nation use their "magic 8-ball" and spray paint inhalant to influence their head coach choices.


Be sure to let your AD know your opinion on Schiano so y'all can hire him after Herman gets fired here in a few years.
Posted by mountain D values
VOLS
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:33 am to
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Schiano


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great hire


Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:34 am to
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They won't, actually, because that is not at all how it works. The contract is a complete instrument. From the first letter to the last one. Therefore, any signatures required therein must ALL be satisfied in order for the instrument to be considered a binding contract.

Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:35 am to
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Offer and acceptance, look it up. This is an easy case to win.


It's not if the person signing it doesnt have unilateral permissions to sign the money away.

If the guy that loads my customers signs a contract saying our company owes some dude $100, guess what? He aint getting shite because I'm the only one that can unilaterally authorize that. If Currie cannot authorize payment on his own because of university policy, which I would assume would be the case. Giving one man the ability to hand 27 million dollars of what basically amounts to state funds isnt something universities are in the business of doing. HENCE why there are multiple signature lines.
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:39 am to
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So does that emoticon give you cred or something? I mean my 8 year old sends more interesting emoji's so maybe he has more cred?

So stupid
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by thecoachcarter
Highland Park
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:42 am to
Demon Deacons, football

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:43 am to
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It's not if the person signing it doesnt have unilateral permissions to sign the money away.


If UT or Currie held Currie out to have authority to bind the university and Schiano reasonably believed that Currie had the authority to bind the university then the university is bound. We don't know what was said and we don't know what Schiano knew or thought as it relates to the signatures needed. But the fact that there are multiple signature blocks on the MOU does not mean that Schiano knew or should have known that Currie could not unilaterally bind the university. Contracts can and often do have multiple signature blocks when the signature from only one of those people is required.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:44 am to
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So does that emoticon give you cred or something? I mean my 8 year old sends more interesting emoji's so maybe he has more cred?

So stupid


No, your gross misunderstanding of basic contracts law is amusing to me.
Posted by thecoachcarter
Highland Park
Member since Nov 2017
125 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:47 am to
I don't feel he'll get 75%, but I think it's quite naive for Tennessee fans to believe they will not be "settling this out of court" with Coach Schiano quietly or even publically to save face to gain his ground back. I believe it will cost them at least one of those years of salary...if not just for the PAIN AND SUFFERING ASPECT.
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:48 am to
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f UT or Currie held Currie out to have authority to bind the university


Stop right there. It doesnt matter who thinks what. If I give you a check that has 2 signature lines on it and im the only one that signs it and my business partner does not then guess what. It doest matter what you BELIEVE or THINK. The bank laughs in your face.

Therefore when Greg goes to cash the check and the only signature is Currie's, the bank laughs in his face.

See how this works. You cant give someone elses money away if you dont have permission to do so completely on your own. There is no way in 90 levels of hell I will believe that the university of tennessee, as ignorant and stupid as they all are, doesnt require multiple signatures to release funds. Especially of that magnitude.

You cannot hold the university responsible for something an employee did without permission.

Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:49 am to
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Demon Deacons, football


Better record than texas.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:51 am to
A University System Policy is not a law.

A MOU was signed by the Athletic Director, whose common job is to oversee an athletic department including hiring and firing coaches.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:53 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:52 am to
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Stop right there. It doesnt matter who thinks what. If I give you a check that has 2 signature lines on it and im the only one that signs it and my business partner does not then guess what. It doest matter what you BELIEVE or THINK. The bank laughs in your face.

Therefore when Greg goes to cash the check and the only signature is Currie's, the bank laughs in his face.


You are conflating two completely different set of laws. Banks are operating under the laws of negotiable instruments. This is not a negotiable instrument, it is a contract. Again, you clearly do not have even an elementary understanding of these basic principles.

Let me ask you a question. I assume you are married. Have you ever signed a document with your spouse that either one of you could have signed individually? For instance, when you purchase a car some dealerships will also have your spouse sign the financial documents even if you are the only person on the loan. Your spouses signature is not required, but they do it anyway. It's not uncommon for there to be multiple signature blocks on a contract. This does not mean that all are required for the contract to be enforceable.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 10:54 am
Posted by logjamming
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:05 am to
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This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63782 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:09 am to
Was the contract signed in Knoxville or in Ohio?


ETA- assuming Currie signed it in Knoxville, and Schiano docusigned it on the internet from Ohio, what jurisdiction will this be in?

This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:13 am
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:17 am to
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Again, you clearly do not have even an elementary understanding of these basic principles.


ban bet. If this goes to court and a judge rules in schiano's favor I'll bow out from this board forever.

Otherwise, peace bitch.

I've never taken, much less OFFERED, a ban bet in the nearly 7 years ive been on this board. So how sure of yourself are you?
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:19 am to
That does not include if Tenn bitches out because I have zero faith in them to hold out against the pedophile supporter. Wanted to make that clear now.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:21 am to
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ban bet. If this goes to court and a judge rules in schiano's favor I'll bow out from this board forever.

Otherwise, peace bitch.

I've never taken, much less OFFERED, a ban bet in the nearly 7 years ive been on this board. So how sure of yourself are you?




This isn't "going to court." If Schiano wants to fight this, it will end in a settlement.

I can't make you understand basic contract law. I've done by best to explain it to you. There's a possibility Currie told Schiano repeatedly that the contract won't be enforceable until the UT President/Chancellor/whoever else signed it. If that's the case then Schiano is shite out of luck, but we don't know that. All that I was trying to explain to you is that the presence of multiple signature blocks on the contract does not mean that the contract cannot be enforceable until all signature blocks are signed. Astonishingly, you can't seem to understand that.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:23 am
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