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re: Heisman…they got it wrong!

Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:21 pm to
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I think the coaches that all played against these QB’s ever week knows better than some media member in California that prolly don’t watch no games in the SEC.


Coaches don’t actually vote for any of these awards. When exactly is it that you think coaches are spending their time watching the games of teams they’ll never play in a season?

Sports Information Directors in Athletic Departments are the people voting on these awards, not the coaches.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:39 pm to
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Coaches don’t actually vote for any of these awards.

So you’re telling me the that the Coaches poll, and the Coaches SEC selection is not being voted in by coaches? I don’t think you know how it works.
Just like at SEC media days when the coaches vote on the pre season awards and team projections.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2712 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:35 am to
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Hooker- 17.5 to 1 Looks like the most outstanding player didn’t get the invite


That’s what happens when you get sandstormed by the cocks. No one gives a frick how good you looked all season if The cocks bend you over.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15309 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:47 am to
He had a good bit better stats than the guy from TCU.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:49 am to
Probably Dugan. Still a pretty lackluster group.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:50 am to
So. That’s the only statistic that should be used? And nobody but a WB can win the award?
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:28 am to
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When exactly is it that you think coaches are spending their time watching the games of teams they’ll never play in a season?

When they’re watching film for teams that they do play. You really didn’t think that one out.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:29 am to
Didn’t you shite head loose to the same Vandy team we beat by 56?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:33 am to
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Stetson should have won


Stetson shouldn't have been there unless he bought a ticket.

He was there for his career not the season.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:34 am to
Maybe the committee thinks his coach is a dick.

Maybe the fan base dogging on him incessantly—and recently—actually had an effect.
Posted by CornfieldChuck
Member since Oct 2022
543 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:57 am to
If going by stats, then Williams is the winner.

But most outstanding player? I'd give it to Stetson. And then to the TCU kid.

But, Heisman isn't about that anymore.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:00 am to
Dugan, probably. Weak class.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33499 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Stetson should have won
Posted by Deacon Reds
Member since Feb 2018
924 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:06 am to
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quote:most outstanding player in college football. TD to Int ratio: Williams- 9.25 to 1 Bennet- 3.33 to 1 Duggan-7.5 to 1 Stroud- 6.16 to 1 Hooker- 17.5 to 1 Looks like the most outstanding player didn’t get the invite.


Last year our RB Kenny McIntosh threw a TD pass vs no interceptions (1-0) ratio. Should he have won the Heisman?
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:08 am to
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Hooker- 17.5 to 1

Looks like the most outstanding player didn’t get the invite.


You just considering QB's? That's a pretty limited list.
Posted by Deacon Reds
Member since Feb 2018
924 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:10 am to
Bennett > Hooker
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19137 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 9:19 am to
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Facts prove me wrong.


Rushing Offense Rankings

Carries per game:

Tennessee - 40.41
Georgia - 37.46

Tennessee ran the ball more than Georgia.

Passing Offense Rankings

Passing Attempts Per Game:
Tennessee - 32.83
Georgia - 33.07

Tennessee had FEWER passing attempts per game than Georgia.

Passing Efficiency

How about passing attempts per game:
Hooker - 29.91
Bennett - 30.38

So...Bennett threw more times per game than Hooker...and also threw 3x as many interceptions and 7 fewer Touchdowns (0.92 fewer TDs per game).

So, the guy who went to New York from the SEC was surrounded by better talent and in an offense that threw more passes...but it was the system that made Hooker successful at UT.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 10:24 am to
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So, the guy who went to New York from the SEC was surrounded by better talent

UGA has better receivers than Tennessee?

The problem with Tennessee fans is that they lack consistency with any argument.

It is like flinging shite against a wall and hoping some of it makes art.

Hookers problem is that he is too conservative. He is hesitant to just let the ball rip. And for that reason, all of his highlights are throwing to receivers who are 3 yards past defenders on deep routes

When he has to fit a tight throw, he crumbles or just flat out holds the ball.

It is way he lost to South Carolina.
It is why UGA abused him 2 years running.
He actually needed to play more like Stetson bennett (gunslinger)
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2712 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:02 am to
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Didn’t you shite head loose to the same Vandy team we beat by 56?


We did. And we also beat the fighting cocks by 30 points exactly 1 week before they raped y’all by 30 points.

This also isn’t our best season in 25 years like y’all. It’s one of our worst. Your best season in 25 years results in the fighting cocks dropping 63 on you lol
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2712 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:05 am to
quote:

the guy who went to New York from the SEC was surrounded by better talent and in an offense that threw more passes...but it was the system that made Hooker successful at UT.


They like to invite proven winners to NYC for the heisman. No one is getting an invite when their team loses to South Carolina by 30 points.
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