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re: Have we accepted that pacemaker was lying about being hit?

Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:52 pm to
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I'm aware that you think you've explained it away.


And yet nobody can give a concrete counter argument, they can only go to personal attacks on me or call SK a liar and that’s it.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:55 pm to
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And yet nobody can give a concrete counter argument, they can only go to personal attacks on me or call SK a liar and that’s it.

I haven't attacked you. I posted a gif that proves Krag is a liar. He wasn't punched, it wasn't "out of nowhere", and he didn't double over.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:55 pm to
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He's saying sometimes things are facts, and there is no "story" to have two sides on.


And everyone involved in he situation definitely looked at it in the same way? No chance for differing perspectives on what was happening?
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:56 pm to
Because he is a liar and you are wrong.

It's not a personal attack to say you are wrong and you'd be an awful defense lawyer based on your "interpretation" of what was clearly a lie by Krag.


Posted by stat19
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:56 pm to
The rest of the modern world has accepted it.

Shrimp Boat is now making a losers excuse tour. Sad.
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:57 pm to
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I haven't attacked you. I posted a gif that proves Krag is a liar. He wasn't punched, it wasn't "out of nowhere", and he didn't double over.




Strike 1, 2, 3...
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:00 pm to
Just look at what happened.

LSU fans listened to Krag and came away from his comments believing he was attacked out of nowhere by some punk kid and that Faulk nobly came to defend an old man with a degenerative disease. LSU Twitter was going wild to ID Cole Fisher. Faulk was being hailed as a hero. A&M was being torn through the mud as bullies against the disabled.

That was entirely based on Krag's comments and we now know it was complete bullshite (and he knew it)
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

they can only go to personal attacks on me or call SK a liar and that’s it


From the Baton Rouge Advocate.

quote:

LSU's Kragthorpe on being punched after A&M loss: 'Damn, he got me right in my pacemaker'


Most of us are simply responding to the original claim that he was punched. Most Ags on this board were critical of Fisher immediately but once the facts started coming out it was quite different than the initial report. We are just lucky there is plenty of video to show Kragthorpe flat arse lied about it.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:01 pm to
Yes. Krag said he was nailed out of nowhere. He said he was hit and doubled over from the force. He said Baby Fisher was maybe trying to punch in him the face. Those are all blatant lies.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:09 pm to
Krag also used the word "punched" lmao

quote:

He said Baby Fisher was maybe trying to punch in him the face.



He tried to show malicious intent


and he harped about his "pacemaker" multiple times in an article with only a handful of quotes.

He was very purposeful with his words and the narrative he wanted.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:09 pm to
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And yet nobody can give a concrete counter argument, they can only go to personal attacks on me or call SK a liar and that’s it.


Like everyone's trying to get through to you, there's no need to formulate a counter-argument when there's a video that says everything.

Why are you being so dense about this? It's plain as day to everyone except you, it seems.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:10 pm to
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And everyone involved in he situation definitely looked at it in the same way?

Everybody doesn't have to. Only the person who made the statement. Sure he knows the difference between a punch and a push? Surely he knew if he doubled over. And surely he knew he followed the kid across the field and the kid did not come out of nowhere.


You are being obtuse and fishing, now.
Posted by teamjackson
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:12 pm to
So broken.

You gonna be okay, little guy?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:13 pm to
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I posted a gif that proves Krag is a liar. He wasn't punched, it wasn't "out of nowhere", and he didn't double over.


No, you didn’t.

#1 that gif is in slow mo, so we don’t actually see what the level of force was

#2 he said he “clutched over” not “doubled over”, and he also didn’t say it was immediate. The camera cuts away so we don’t see if he “clutched over” a few seconds after or not.

#3 He said “punched” one time. He said “nailed” another and I think “hit”. That he maybe misspoke 1 time when describing the incident doesn’t necessarily make him a liar
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Agforlife
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Okay so to clarify, you’re saying your view is the only legitimate one and there’s no room for any analysis or interpretation whatsoever? There’s only 1 side to the story and one must either 100% agree with you or they’re a liar. Is that what you’re saying?



Well that's what you are expounding, so yeah
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33926 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:14 pm to
Bottom line in all of this is that DC and Battle should face consequences. DC started this and everything else is a result of his actions. Battle took it to another level and should have never gotten involved
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:14 pm to
A push is a hit
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

there's no need to formulate a counter-argument when there's a video that says everything.


The video doesn’t necessarily show he was lying though, that’s the thing
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:16 pm to
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Well that's what you are expounding


No it isn’t. Literally the only thing I’ve said is you can’t definitely say SK was lying.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 3:16 pm to
Rebuttal of “he came out of nowhere” when he chased him down over a distance of 60+ feet?
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