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Has any coach ever had a more meteoric rise than Gus Malzahn?

Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:46 pm
I'm still amazed at how well Malzahn has done taking the quantum leap from high school head coach to SEC/Division 1-A coordinator. When's the last time a coach took that big of a step and not failed miserably? It's just mind-boggling how someone who was coaching in high school just five years ago will very likely be a HC at a (very good) BCS program next year.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:47 pm to
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It's just mind-boggling how someone who was coaching in high school just five years ago will very likely be a HC at a (very good) BCS program next year.

I agree. But then, I think things begin to fall apart for him and Chizik.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:48 pm to
without cam GM would be nothing.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:52 pm to
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without cam GM would be nothing.


He had the #1 offense in the country at Tulsa. He was also the OC for an Arkansas team that started the season at something like 8-0 and won the SEC West that year. Malzahn is a great coach.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 9:58 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:54 pm to
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Malzahn is a great coach.
Great offensive coordinator, maybe. And was he really that great at Arkansas. Didn't he want Mustain to throw it 50 times a game.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 9:54 pm
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:55 pm to
gimmicks

that HS offense will never work once he's a big time HC

Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:57 pm to
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Didn't he want Mustain to throw it 50 times a game.


No.

Nutt thought you only needed to pass 10-15 times most a game as only 3 things can happen passing and two of them ain't good.

Malzahn adjusts plays and play calling to fit the talent level and skill sets of this players.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:57 pm to
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that HS offense will never work once he's a big time HC
I see it putting up huge numbers against mediocre defenses and struggling much more against the elite defenses.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:58 pm to
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No.

Nutt thought you only needed to pass 10-15 times most a game as only 3 things can happen passing and two of them ain't good.

Malzahn adjusts plays and play calling to fit the talent level and skill sets of this players.

Thanks for some clarification. I honestly thought Malzahn was trying to pimp his high school QB as a freshman in the SEC while a great running back duo went to waste.
This post was edited on 11/24/10 at 9:59 pm
Posted by jso0003
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:58 pm to
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He had the #1 offense in the country at Tulsa. He was also the OC for an Arkansas team that started the season at something like 8-0 and won the SEC West that year. Malzahn is a great coach.


Nortizzle is as Auburn fan... he's baiting you
Posted by roody
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:59 pm to
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Great offensive coordinator, maybe. And was he really that great at Arkansas. Didn't he want Mustain to throw it 50 times a game.


No, that was what the nutt camp was spreading around so they could run him off. They complained that you just can't run the spread when you have McFadden and Jones and yet every offense Malzahn has coached at the college level has been one of the top rushing outfits in the country.
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:59 pm to
I'd argue Gerry Faust has a case. He made a direct leap from a championship level HS coach, to the HC gig at Notre Dame, back when they were still semi-relevant.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:00 pm to
They put up pretty good numbers against LSU... only put up 24 points but IIRC, Auburn had pretty bad field position and had to put together long drives
Posted by Bamascoopfan
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:00 pm to
I think he has simplified what he is doing quite a bit with Cam Newton. He does not need to use so much smoke and mirrors with a guy like that. They are doing a lot more power running stuff with him and their backs this year.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Thanks for some clarification. I honestly thought Malzahn was trying to pimp his high school QB as a freshman in the SEC while a great running back duo went to waste.



No, this was what Nutt spread through the media to justify demoting Gus, who left afterwords and resorting back to his old ways.

Posted by jso0003
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:02 pm to
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I think he has simplified what he is doing quite a bit with Cam Newton. He does not need to use so much smoke and mirrors with a guy like that. They are doing a lot more power running stuff with him and their backs this year.


Uhh we did a good bit of power running with Ben Tate last year. Last year we were mostly hindered by the fact that Chris Todd sucks balls...
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:04 pm to
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I think he has simplified what he is doing quite a bit with Cam Newton. He does not need to use so much smoke and mirrors with a guy like that. They are doing a lot more power running stuff with him and their backs this year.


Yeah, he is using an offense similar to one he used at Hughes since that school was smaller and the mental capability isn't comparable to what he had at Springdale (both schools). Basically dumb it down to one read and go.
Posted by BradPitt
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:06 pm to
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without cam GM would be nothing.


People said the same thing about McFadden and Jones... remind me what they did in 2005 and 2007 again?
Posted by Nortizzle
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:11 pm to
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Nortizzle is as Auburn fan... he's baiting you


shite on that shite.
Posted by CreoleAubie
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:22 pm to
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Uhh we did a good bit of power running with Ben Tate last year.


This is true.


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Last year we were mostly hindered by the fact that Chris Todd sucks balls...


This is false.

GM made Chris Todd into a very functional QB last year. When the offense dried up it was primarily due to an offensive line that lost focus....they were the ones who sucked balls. That notwithstanding, Chris Todd set a few records for passing.

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