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re: Has any coach ever actually retired from LSU.. or have they all been fired?

Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:20 pm to
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If what people are saying is true, he was barely involved in either.



There are still relationships established and everything else regardless. Now your staff for the most part has no reason to recruit, no reason to develop and no reason to care about the future at LSU.

I know the effects of this because that's what happened to Tennessee with Dooley once their staff and Dooley knew he was going to be fired. You don't want a staff like that. I know someone in their AD, it hurt their program bad.

NIL will soften that to some degree, but still not ideal.

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Who said he was the best coach ever?

I never thought he was elite or anything, he's just a good coach that was apparently checked out.


You did. Constantly talking about highest win% this and that. And how with LSU's resources even Coach O and Les Miles won NC. Just weeks before he was fired even.

And now suddenly no coach at all is better than he is.

Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:24 pm to
It's cute he's all of sudden pretending he never thought BK was #2 period in the SEC.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:28 pm to
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Now your staff for the most part has no reason to recruit, no reason to develop and no reason to care about the future at LSU.


If the staff isn't retained, their recruiting efforts would be for naught anyway.

As far as development, we're talking a month roughly. Not a huge loss IMO. And we're likely to see a mass exodus anyway.

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You did. Constantly talking about highest win% this and that.





That's a blatant falsehood, I never said he was some great coach. Usually, my conversations around his win percentage were in response to someone saying he was a "bad coach" or "sucked" or something.

My stance was always that he was a good coach who won more games than many in this conference, ultimately it wasn't enough.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:30 pm to
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It's cute he's all of sudden pretending he never thought BK was #2 period in the SEC.


He had the second best win percentage for a time.I don't recall saying he was the second best coach, if I did, feel free to link it.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:50 pm to
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If the staff isn't retained, their recruiting efforts would be for naught anyway.

As far as development, we're talking a month roughly. Not a huge loss IMO. And we're likely to see a mass exodus anyway.


It's not just a month, it's a month in the middle of the biggest development time of the year. Schools have lost money on bowl games just for an extra month of practices and development time.

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That's a blatant falsehood, I never said he was some great coach. Usually, my conversations around his win percentage were in response to someone saying he was a "bad coach" or "sucked" or something.

My stance was always that he was a good coach who won more games than many in this conference, ultimately it wasn't enough.


You were a big enough cheerleader for him that people make fun of you for it. It'll leave it at that.

This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 8:51 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:51 pm to
"I never said he was a great coach, I just said he was #2 in the SEC period."
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67650 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:54 pm to
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I never said he was a great coach, I just said he was #2 in the SEC period.


Link it
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67650 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:56 pm to
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You were a big enough cheerleader for him that people make fun of you for it. It'll leave it at that.


I challenge anyone to find a link of me saying something unrealistic about BK, you won't find it.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38883 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:05 pm to
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I challenge anyone to find a link of me saying something unrealistic about BK, you won't find it.


Brian Kelly was asked if the Alabama victory was the biggest win of his career
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67650 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:07 pm to
What did I say that was unrealistic?
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6768 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:09 pm to
Damn. Headshot.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38883 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:10 pm to
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What did I say that was unrealistic?


Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67650 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:10 pm to

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72061 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:20 am to
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Fire him at the end of the year - or when you can actually afford it.


His buyout was no less at the end of the year than it was midseason. And LSU can afford it; one booster alone is covering the majority of it.

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You rebuilding now? frick no. You look like a dumpster fire desperate to keep making the same mistakes.


I get that you’re new to this coaching search thing. But yes, indeed, LSU is currently rebuilding, mid season. They are interviewing at every level for next year and fighting to keep the 2026 recruiting class. We only have 1 decommitment, so it’s pretty clear the recruiting class is interested to see who the new HC will be. Had Kelly stayed on, there is no guarantee this happens for all the reasons mentioned previously. He’d lost the locker room, alumni and staff. Not to mention the boost in NIL funding that comes with a coaching search. That was not happening with Kelly still on staff. In fact, it likely would have reduced.

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It depends on the context of what's going on in the program. If Nick Saban went 6-5 back to back, he wouldn't have been fired. If DeBoer does it, then probably so.


Glad we’ve found some middle ground. Yes, Alabama would provide a longer leash to the greatest coach of all time than they would any other.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 7:23 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38883 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:57 am to
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I get that you’re new to this coaching search thing.


I've been watching college football for more than 50 years.

Try again.
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
5576 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:02 am to
I know you Gumps dont like to think about this, but Saban left, he wasnt fired.
Posted by UFFan
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Member since Aug 2016
2683 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:04 am to
Wasn't McClendon actually fired?

I mean, he did retire after getting fired at LSU, but I'm pretty sure he was actually fired.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
8218 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:09 am to
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Has any coach ever actually retired from LSU.


It’s very rare for anywhere now. Saban, Bill Snyder, Bill Bowden, Frank Beamer are about the only ones I can think of. And some of those might have been forced to retire.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72061 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 12:40 pm to
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I've been watching college football for more than 50 years.


Not sure how this applies considering you’ve already pretty well stated Alabama’s coaching situations have been the exception, not the norm.

To comment that LSU is not currently rebuilding is patently false.

To comment that LSU would be better off having let BK coach out the the remainder of the season is naive. At least provide some context. Because I would argue the damage he was doing, combined with timing of early signing period, it would quite literally have hurt LSU to keep him on when it was clear to everyone he was going to be let go.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38883 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Not sure how this applies considering you’ve already pretty well stated Alabama’s coaching situations have been the exception, not the norm.

To comment that LSU is not currently rebuilding is patently false.

To comment that LSU would be better off having let BK coach out the the remainder of the season is naive. At least provide some context. Because I would argue the damage he was doing, combined with timing of early signing period, it would quite literally have hurt LSU to keep him on when it was clear to everyone he was going to be let go.


Good luck with your dumpster fire. You ain't done shite since firing BK but lose games and play like shite. All the while your best case scenario is to get another coach with a 34% win rate against ranked teams to frick over their team so you can get them a month earlier for extreme payouts.

LSU is quickly becoming the team I knew them as growing up.
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