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re: Guys…..how do you all feel about this recent surge of COVID (hurting the season)
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:30 pm to KellerChrystFan
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:30 pm to KellerChrystFan
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They aren't going to get the vaccine no matter what is said to them... unless someone in their family ends up on a ventilator, so I'll continue calling them dumbasses and insulting their intelligence.
I'd bet a decent amount of money that the longer it goes on with people dying, and the longer it goes with people not having major problems with the vaccine, the likelihood of people taking the vaccine increases.
Or it will be over naturally at some point.
If the vaccine works, why are you so worried? That's what doesn't make sense to me.
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:30 pm to MrAUTigers
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I am very serious. This is not a USA issue. It's a world issue. The World Health Organization has been the ones driving this from the very start.
ETA is it our govt. who has shut the Olympics down to fan involvement?
You don't get it. Bill Gates is in collusion with every nation's government worldwide. This shite runs deep.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:31 pm to MrAUTigers
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s it our govt. who has shut the Olympics down to fan involvement?
What does that have to do with our government pushing the vaccine or not?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:32 pm to MrAUTigers
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ETA what I am is somebody who has a disdain for ignorance, selfishness and a person who cares so little for other people.
You’re the very definition of the word selfish.
“Hey everyone, go get the covid shot so I can run around without being scared again.”
And no one is ignorant because they want to take a minute and see the long term effects of covid and the shots. You and Keller are the only ones being completely psycho about it.
Congrats on looking like a sky screaming idiot though.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:32 pm to Drebin
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If we were to truly follow science, we would all know that these 'variants' are significantly weaker than the original. More easily transmissible? Yes. But also significantly weaker.
That is not how this works.
Variants are, to put it mildly, variances from the norm. So they might be less virulent... they might be more. Delta seems to be more virulent.
All of which would be a moot point if people got off their lazy asses and got vaccinated. We could kill this in a couple of weeks if people got their shots.
Get vaccinated and get your family vaccinated and in a couple of months we won't be having this conversation because we will have beaten COVID. Or we can let it hang around. Because, as sports fans, we can all attest that letting a foe hang around never, never, comes back to bite you in the arse.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:33 pm to MrAUTigers
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Then stop bitching about sporting events and other things being shut down to fans because of covid concerns.
I'm still waiting to hear how the vaccine will work on people who get vaccinated now in order to protect those who are already vaccinated.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:33 pm to 3down10
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That's what doesn't make sense to me.
Sounds like a personal problem.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:34 pm to Rhino5
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the long term effects of covid
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:35 pm to MrAUTigers
The stats are revealing 99.5% of hospitalizations and deaths in the last 6 weeks have been the unvaccinated.
About 5000 break through (vaccinated) infections that required hospitalization and about 1000 deaths. The same conditions that increase severe covid risks are issues for people not responding to vaccines: age, health (especially immunocompromised people), etc...unfortunately everyone doesn't mount an immune response to the vaccine thankfully about 99.9% DO.
The virus issue now is completely preventable via vaccination in our country. I understand but disagree with the concerns about the vaccine. There is almost zero concern now for medical issues from the vaccine in the first year. The data supports this info. The knowledge of the science behind the vaccine suggest there is nothing to worry about long term but in the end we won't truly know that until the time elapses and the data is collected. Most people worrying about the long term effects of the vaccine probably engage in 20 or more poor long term health habits much more concerning than anything the vaccine could do. (tobacco, abuse of alcohol, fried foods, poor diet, unprotected sex with multiple partners, driving while impaired, etc...)
Pay attention to what occurred in England this spring. They have a similar vaccinated population. They saw cases that mirrored their 3rd wave, but the hospitalization and deaths were severely reduced due to the most vulnerable being highly vaccinated. Unfortunately for many unvaccinated and a few vaccinated the high rates of transmission still unnecessarily took many lives.
About 5000 break through (vaccinated) infections that required hospitalization and about 1000 deaths. The same conditions that increase severe covid risks are issues for people not responding to vaccines: age, health (especially immunocompromised people), etc...unfortunately everyone doesn't mount an immune response to the vaccine thankfully about 99.9% DO.
The virus issue now is completely preventable via vaccination in our country. I understand but disagree with the concerns about the vaccine. There is almost zero concern now for medical issues from the vaccine in the first year. The data supports this info. The knowledge of the science behind the vaccine suggest there is nothing to worry about long term but in the end we won't truly know that until the time elapses and the data is collected. Most people worrying about the long term effects of the vaccine probably engage in 20 or more poor long term health habits much more concerning than anything the vaccine could do. (tobacco, abuse of alcohol, fried foods, poor diet, unprotected sex with multiple partners, driving while impaired, etc...)
Pay attention to what occurred in England this spring. They have a similar vaccinated population. They saw cases that mirrored their 3rd wave, but the hospitalization and deaths were severely reduced due to the most vulnerable being highly vaccinated. Unfortunately for many unvaccinated and a few vaccinated the high rates of transmission still unnecessarily took many lives.
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:36 pm to KellerChrystFan
quote:Then go make a difference where it matters instead of just reaffirming some random person on the internet's vaccine position.
They aren't going to get the vaccine no matter what is said to them
I have a buddy who volunteered at a north St. Louis vaccination site a few weeks ago. Blacks have the lowest COVID vaccination rate by race/ethnicity, and the South (ie. SEC country) has this thing called the Black Belt which just isn't describing the fertile soil.
Even if it is just handing out clip boards for people to fill out paperwork or telling people where to park, the vaccination sites need help. I know Alabama and Mississippi have had the National Guard working those sites.
If you really want to improve the COVID vaccination rate, there are ways to help. Calling GodBlessSabanAndHarveyUpdyke a stupid sonofabitch on SECRant isn't helping.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:36 pm to KellerChrystFan
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Sounds like a personal problem.
As with you and your trembling fear of covid
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:37 pm to TigerLunatik
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What does that have to do with our government pushing the vaccine or not?
For the last time........ Every nation in the world is being asked to take this vaccine. Every race, religion and both sexes are being asked to get vaccinated. You act like the USA is the only country affected by this. Yes, our govt. has "experts" dealing with this, just like most every country in the world, but it is WHO that is pushing for worldwide vaccination.
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If COVID-19 is spreading in your community, stay safe by taking some simple precautions, such as physical distancing, wearing a mask, keeping rooms well ventilated, avoiding crowds, cleaning your hands, and coughing into a bent elbow or tissue. Check local advice where you live and work. Do it all!
You also find out more about WHO's recommendations for getting vaccinated on our public advice page on COVID-19 vaccines.
every nation is just parroting what WHO has been saying from day 1
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:40 pm to Arksulli
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That is not how this works.
Variants are, to put it mildly, variances from the norm. So they might be less virulent... they might be more. Delta seems to be more virulent.
All of which would be a moot point if people got off their lazy asses and got vaccinated. We could kill this in a couple of weeks if people got their shots.
Get vaccinated and get your family vaccinated and in a couple of months we won't be having this conversation because we will have beaten COVID. Or we can let it hang around. Because, as sports fans, we can all attest that letting a foe hang around never, never, comes back to bite you in the arse.
That is exactly how it works. It's called survival of the fittest.
Of course some mutations will become more deadly.
However, killing the host does not benefit the virus. A dead host doesn't allow it to continue spreading. Kind of like killing the earth(our host) doesn't benefit humans, and if the earth dies, so do we.
So the strain that is less deadly is likely the one that will be passed on. Other factors can keep the virus as deadly, or maybe even a little more deadly and spread easier, but still the most common mutations will be those that don't.
And people who get infected with the less deadly one and recover, are then most likely immune to other strains.
I'm not sure what the death rate is on the delta strain, but I would be absolutely shocked if it leads to anything remotely as serious as last year.
The deadlier a strain, the easier it is to contain.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:41 pm to Brunedog
Shouldn’t even be an issue. Proof of vaccination, your admitted. If not , go frick yourself
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:41 pm to MrAUTigers
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but it is WHO that is pushing for worldwide vaccination
That doesn’t concern you in the slightest?
I wish I was as fat, dumb, and happy as to take a government organizations word as gospel, and then curse people for not doing the same.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:41 pm to Tigerman97
I just can't understand why if the overwhelmingly majority of primary care physicians are advocating that people get it, that people still don't trust them.
That's the part that is mind boggling. If you trusted them before the pandemic, why not now?
You wouldn't tell the CPA you have been seeing for years not to use a new program to get a bigger deduction because you don't trust their opinion on your money anymore.
That's the part that is mind boggling. If you trusted them before the pandemic, why not now?
You wouldn't tell the CPA you have been seeing for years not to use a new program to get a bigger deduction because you don't trust their opinion on your money anymore.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:42 pm to MrAUTigers
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For the last time........ Every nation in the world is being asked to take this vaccine.
Yes I know.
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You act like the USA is the only country affected by this
I didn't say anything remotely close to that. Here you go with making things up just to argue with people.
Just because other countries are dealing with it too doesn't mean that our government isn't pushing the vaccine and trying to get people to get it.
All I did was search "Biden get vaccinated" and the first article that came up said this...
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Biden pushes more Americans to get vaccinated after passing 300 million dose benchmark
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While touting his administration's national vaccination effort, which has brought Covid-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths down significantly in recent months, the President also emphasized the need to get other Americans vaccinated.
What exactly do you call that?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:42 pm to SOBMarcus
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Proof of vaccination, your admitted. If not , go frick yourself
Sorry doesn’t work that way here in the US. Maybe try North Korea or China
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:42 pm to SOBMarcus
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Shouldn’t even be an issue. Proof of vaccination, your admitted. If not , go frick yourself
Agreed. Do this at every SEC stadium and every Shoney's Buffet and the south will be leading the nation in vaccination rates.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 3:42 pm to MrAUTigers
The China Joe government.
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