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re: Greatest TE in SEC history?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:53 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:53 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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He wasn't even the best blocking TE on his own team.
Just because Darnell Washington blocks like a tackle doesn't mean Bowers sucks at it. He is plenty good enough at blocking. Washington could have been a first round pick as a tackle if he was 20-30 lbs heavier.
Bowers has incredibly rare speed and quick twitch ability for a tight end. That's what makes him different.
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:56 am to VADawg
For no particular reason I just want to give a shout out to my boy Jason Peters.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:58 am to koreandawg
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Witten wasn't used that much by Tennessee. Much better NFL TE than in college. TE has been underutilized in college for a long, long time. Only recently becoming a go to position on offense. Very rare to see that even a decade ago.
I think we're starting to see another shift in offensive philosophy.
Denbrock and Kelly both clearly want to feature more 12 personnel, and that's why we're recruiting TE like we never have before. LSU was way late to the spread, but we're not going to be late this time.
I'd expect to see a lot of SEC schools putting out serious TE stats and talent in the next decade.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:04 am to koreandawg
Pitts is the only one close to Bowers statistically and he was only a 2 year starter.
Bowers will go down as the best tight end in SEC history. Pitts season in 2020 is the best individual so far though
Bowers will go down as the best tight end in SEC history. Pitts season in 2020 is the best individual so far though
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:06 am to TideSaint
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Not bad.
But...it is bad. What hapened in the NFL has less than nothing to do wiht what happened in their SEC careers. Jason witten was not even remotely close to the 3rd best SEC TE of all time.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:07 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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Bower is a great player but he's really just a receiver playing TE.
uhhh...ok? And? You act like being a great catcher of the ball is somehow a negative.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:09 am to WG_Dawg
Bowers needs 835 yards and 10 TDs to tie the current GOAT TE
Chase Coffman, Missouri (2005-08)
Stats: 247 rec., 2,659 yds, 30 TDs
Chase Coffman, Missouri (2005-08)
Stats: 247 rec., 2,659 yds, 30 TDs
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:18 am to VADawg
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Washington could have been a first round pick as a tackle if he was 20-30 lbs heavier.
Wow what an incredibly bold and ludicrous statement with absolutely 0 evidence to back it up.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:21 am to FireDanMullen
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0 evidence
Talent scouts say it.
But even they are subjective.
UGA rushed for 40 TDs last season. I'd guess about 30 of them were behind Darnell Washington.
A fan could make a highlight reel of blocking based on those 30 TD runs.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:22 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
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Don't get me wrong Bowers is a great player but he's really just a receiver playing TE. He wasn't even the best blocking TE on his own team.
Bowers could be the 2nd best on his team and still be the 2nd best in the conference.
He actually was pretty excellent last year blocking our screen game and outside runs. He is such a great decoy... defenders dont know whether to lock him with leverage or chase him.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:23 am to koreandawg
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Greatest TE in SEC history?
Tight ends in the modern era are used so much differently than they were even 20 years ago. In the modern era where tight ends are used more like wide receivers, sure, Bowers would be at the top of any list. Hunter Henry is up there too.
All-time?
You'd have to include guys like Ozzie Newsom and Jason Witten (and Kellen Winslow from Missouri, although he didn't play in the SEC)
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:26 am to GAT BoilerPickle Doc
This isn't true at all. I read an article interviewing some of UGA's DEs that said Bowers could drive block them into the ground. He is great blocker and receiver. He can run out of the backfield and outrun DBs even when they have an angle on him. He really is the one of the best athletes I've seen at UGA going all the way back to HW.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:27 am to koreandawg
Baseball season bro
Go find a hobby if your team sucks
Go find a hobby if your team sucks
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:29 am to lsufball19
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You'd have to include guys like Jason Witten
Can you support why, without mentioning the NFL? He only logged any action worth noting in 2 seasons and had the following:
28 catches for 293 yards, 2 TDs
39 catches for 493 yards, 5 TDs
Isaac nauta as a JR put up 30 for 430 yards and 3 TDs. Orson Charles as a JR put up 45 for 574 yards adn 5 TDs. Are those guys all time greats? If not, why not?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:29 am to LSUstephen17
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You are in the wrong thread for baseball. Maybe try the more sports board?
You are in the wrong thread for baseball. Maybe try the more sports board?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:31 am to LSUstephen17
Once again...it's NEVER not football season, when you're UGA. For your team?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:33 am to meansonny
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Talent scouts say it. But even they are subjective. UGA rushed for 40 TDs last season. I'd guess about 30 of them were behind Darnell Washington. A fan could make a highlight reel of blocking based on those 30 TD runs.
Talent scouts on ESPN say a lot of bullshite. There’s more to blocking as an offensive tackle than there is as a Tight end. The vast majority of blocking as a tight end is run blocking - which is completely different than pass blocking.
You’ve never once seen Washington drop into a pass blocking stance like a Left Tackle does so cherry picking off of what some commentator says on television during the NFL draft to fill up B roll is pretty baseless.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:34 am to WG_Dawg
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Can you support why, without mentioning the NFL? He only logged any action worth noting in 2 seasons and had the following:
28 catches for 293 yards, 2 TDs
39 catches for 493 yards, 5 TDs
In 2002, that made him 1st Team All-SEC. Looking at stats in a vacuum and comparing them to modern day expectations is a fools errand, which is why I said as much in my post.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:36 am to lsufball19
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In 2002, that made him 1st Team All-SEC. Looking at stats in a vacuum and comparing them to modern day expectations is a fools errand, which is why a said as much in my post.
I'm aware you can't go apples to apples across different generations. The offenses of todays, and certainly tight ends, are simply far too different.
Even with that being true though, it's still still to claim witten as one of the best TEs EVER in the HISTORY of the SEC, based on essentially nothing more than his remarkable professional career. Lots of guys have been 1st team all SEC. That doesn't make them a contender for the best ever at their position.
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