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re: Grading the SEC after week 1

Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:15 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:15 am to
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As much as you try to make this a thing,


You replying makes it a thing

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You are absolutely obsessed while desperately screaming for Miko attention nonstop.


I've actually been pretty measured with Nico takes on here if you can actually read
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:20 am to
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Clemson is shite. They're a 4 loss team…at least.


This post shows a lack of understanding of college football.

8 teams in the top 25 at the end of last season were 4-loss teams. Including.... Clemson last year at 9-4. They were 20th.

Is Clemson elite? Absolutely not. Are they a top 25 team? They very well may be one.

Let's assume Clemson loses their bowl. They already lost to UGA. So what other losses are on their schedule?

NCSU? Sure. Let's give them that one.

FSU? Eh... not so sure. Louisville? Eh. VT? Eh. Pitt? SC? UVA? Wake? Stanford?

Clemson still seems like a top 25 team more than likely this year. They aren't a playoff team more than likely, but the ACC is weak, SC looks bad and Clemson doesn't play Miami.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7843 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 12:13 pm to
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D Tier:

South Carolina

What the frick. They escape the bottom because even though they sucked, they did manage to eke out a come-from-behind win. Against Old Dominion.
Carolina led for the first 44:46 of the game -
was tied the next 5:20 -
trailed by a FG for 3:43 in 4Q -
retook the lead on a TD for good with 6:11 to play -

it was a completely ugly and out of sync offensive performance even though USC led for a few ticks shy of 51 outta 60 minutes -

Gamecock defense is not getting enough credit for rising up to create 2 huge fumbles inside the opponents 10 - as well as a baited INT in the USC EZ the very next play after Sellers had a fumble returned inside the C20 -

2 bad plays by the same USC DB allowed a 72 yard TD reception (1Q) and a 36 yard QB scramble (3Q) to find the EZ - otherwise ODU scores maybe 9 points total -

this is the same ODU that finished ahead of Southern Miss (KY's opponent last Sat) in the SunBelt last season and beat USM in Hattiesburg - same ODU QB / WR played against Carolina on Sat - running a Josh Huepel influenced spread attack -
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3844 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Which is why I gave the caveat "Not saying UGA isn't S tier" which unrelates them from the issue


And that wasn't the point of my post, try reading it again.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60624 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Using recruiting rankings to back up a point about on field product is such a Georgia fan cop out move


I mean, I think Tennessee would be a bad matchup for Clemson. Clemson's weak spot is their secondary.
That said, you were using a game from 2 years ago to make your point. Recruiting rankings would be more accurate than a game played two years ago.

Again, I think Tennessee would beat Clemson, but that would also depend on Tennessee's OLine being able to protect Iamaleava.
Posted by JustinOKC
OKC
Member since Jul 2021
975 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:14 pm to
I'm obviously a Texas hater, but beating up on Colorado State gets you up in the top tier? I can understand Georgia, but better explain Texas please? Ewers showed again he likes to throw to other colored jerseys. Wait until he sees a real defense. This is your top tier, based on Colorado State?

I would buy Ole Miss before Texas at this point.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4063 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:20 pm to
This is idiotic bait for LSU and A&M fans.

We still don’t really know shite about most of these teams. Ole Miss hung a billion on Furman, wow cool. Texas hung a billion on Colorado State, who cares. Is anybody who’s not stupid or a troll under the impression that LSU or A&M wouldn’t beat those teams by 40, or that beating them by 60 is meaningfully better than beating them by 40?

I would even add Florida to this. Getting smoked by Miami at home is a bad look, but how do we know Miami isn’t about to go 12-1 and get a top 4 playoff seed? Sure seems like the entire bottom half of the conference would get smoked by Miami at home too.

USC and Notre Dame are both contenders for the expanded playoff. How do we know they wouldn’t eke out narrow wins against most of the conference?

Just a very dumb reactionary set of takes here.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:40 pm to
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First post, of course it's a Tennessee fan with an absolutely terrible take on UGA


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And that wasn't the point of my post, try reading it again.



So I guess you don't think UGA is S tier and I do? Man, maybe have some confidence in your own team.

My take on UGA was that they are S tier
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:41 pm to
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That said, you were using a game from 2 years ago to make your point.


I don't think I once brought up the game from 2 years ago, that was someone else.

Georgia fans REALLY need to learn to read, or at least be more aware of what they are reading.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60624 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:48 pm to
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I don't think I once brought up the game from 2 years ago, that was someone else.


You are correct. But, didn't you mention that it is a Georgia fan thing to bring up recruit rankings? I probably shouldn't have directed it directly to you, but several Tennessee fans brought up the games from two years ago.

Again, i will repeat...I think it would be a match up in favor of Tennessee. Your passing offense against Clemson's secondary favors UTk. I'm not really sure why so many people get so upset about threads like this. I am always curious about what other people's opinions are. Some I agree with and some i don't. But these things are just meant for conversation and passing the time until Saturday.

Both teams (Georgia and Tennessee) will have really good years. Tennessee's will depend on the development of Iamaleava. I know you guys are excited, and for good reason. He looks like a legit talent.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:50 pm to
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hink it would be a match up in favor of Tennessee. Your passing offense against Clemson's secondary favors UTk.


That's why I said we would beat them by more than Georgia did. But Georgia would beat a lot of other teams by more than Tennessee would too.

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But, didn't you mention that it is a Georgia fan thing to bring up recruit rankings?


Yes, which has nothing to do with 2 years ago

Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3844 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:48 pm to
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So I guess you don't think UGA is S tier and I do? Man, maybe have some confidence in your own team.

My take on UGA was that they are S tier 


Another swing and a miss, keep trying
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:51 pm to
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Another swing and a miss


At least I can read, though
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3844 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:53 pm to
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At least I can read, though


Clearly not, keep trying
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60624 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:55 pm to
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Yes, which has nothing to do with 2 years ago



I think you are missing my point again. You said that it was such a Georgia thing to do to bring up recruiting ratings. I was merely pointing out that many UTk fans keep bringing up a game played two years ago.

Be honest. Which is going to give you a better feel for how a game will go? Recent recruiting rankings, or a game that was played two years ago?

There is a reason almost every single team that has won a title has been in the top 5 recruiting rankings. There are tons of teams that win a game two years prior yet get beaten by the team they previously beat.
There is more correlation between recruiting rankings than there are games played two years prior.

So, would it be fair to say, it is such a Tennessee thing to do to think just because they beat a team two years prior they would beat them this year?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:16 pm to
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You said that it was such a Georgia thing to do to bring up recruiting ratings. I was merely pointing out that many UTk fans keep bringing up a game played two years ago.


But I didn't bring it up, so its irrelevant to me

Even when It became a topic in this thread I didn't talk about it. I do not care about a game 2 years ago

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Be honest. Which is going to give you a better feel for how a game will go? Recent recruiting rankings, or a game that was played two years ago?

There is a reason almost every single team that has won a title has been in the top 5 recruiting rankings. There are tons of teams that win a game two years prior yet get beaten by the team they previously beat.
There is more correlation between recruiting rankings than there are games played two years prior.


I don't think a game played 2 years ago is a good barometer, so I don't know why you're trying to convince me of this


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So, would it be fair to say, it is such a Tennessee thing to do to think just because they beat a team two years prior they would beat them this year?


Would it be fair to say you're trying to salvage your argument when we wouldn't have had one if you just read my post correctly the first time?
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 3:17 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60624 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:49 pm to
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But I didn't bring it up, so its irrelevant to me

Even when It became a topic in this thread I didn't talk about it. I do not care about a game 2 years ago


Ok. Then in general, I will just say it is such a Tennessee thing to do. They think because they beat a team 2 years ago, that they will beat them this year.

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I don't think a game played 2 years ago is a good barometer, so I don't know why you're trying to convince me of this

I am not trying to convince you of this. I am merely pointing out that many Tennessee fans in this thread are saying that. I was wondering how you felt. You are saying they are wrong. That's good.

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Would it be fair to say you're trying to salvage your argument when we wouldn't have had one if you just read my post correctly the first time?

Apparently you have a hard time with posts. When you first questioned me about this, I said I realized it, and that it was probably a mistake to direct my statement to you as it was mean as an ingeneral statement. you keep insisting that it was meant for you so let me say it very clearly....

The original intent of my statement was meant for Tennessee fans in general that was saying "We beat Clemson two years ago, so we would beat them this year!"

There. I've now said it twice and brought particular attention to it. Hopefully you will read and understand it this time.
Posted by Jeepin_Josh
Nashville TN
Member since Jan 2024
322 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:28 pm to
nailed it
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:29 pm to
Both A&M and LSU played arguably top 10 talent. Miami was Good Talent. Vandy played a very good team.

My point? Both A&M and LSU would be undefeated if they played a cream puff like everyone else.

Remember last years Bama / Texas game. 10 points. Everyone thought Bama dead.

Oh! Bama was one decent call from playing for the Natty.

So, get off LSU and A&M’s back. They are really good teams and we will see by season end how good they really are.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
19052 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Not sure how good/bad eastern Kentucky is, but last season Kentucky only beat them by 11 points with a 28-17 win.
Our wide receivers were on strike until mid season
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