re: Georgia beat a bunch of walk-ons starting

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I said they ran mesh, you said it wasn’t. You just said it was and you call me names

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Mesh wasnt the primary route concept against UGA.

It is like talking about go routes when it was only called 3 times.

You may be focusing on what MISS st did to LSU. I dont know. But mesh wasnt a big deal against UGA. Look at the stat sheet.

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When you were in zone, that play got hit for yards to keep the chains moving

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bullshite.

If it wasnt one of the 3 backs in a texas route or angle route, it was the 6 foot 5 target Mitchell on a button hook.

And the point of my post is that any walkon can run an angle route and stand in front of the QB. There isnt any skill for a 6 foot 5 target to stop at 5 yards and stare down the QB for the ball. And then turn and fall forward for 2 more yards.

The depth chart had no bearing on the success of that pitch and catch all game for about 20+ completions.

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Mesh wasnt the primary route concept against UGA.

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Never said it was. Did I? I said it was called a lot.. it was. Look at the volume of passes thrown.

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There isnt any skill for a 6 foot 5 target to stop at 5 yards and stare down the QB for the ball. And then turn and fall forward for 2 more yards.

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Didnt say it was, but you just described Mesh vs Zone in a nutshell.

Again, thanks for agreeing

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The depth chart had no bearing on the success of that pitch and catch all game for about 20+ completions.

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Here’s the source of your real anger. Your studded team got picked clean by a group of Freshmen ... lmao. Melt On

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Melt On

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Lol

I called you names because you want to call anything over the middle a mesh route.

I'm dying here. Leach called a gem. You know what he didnt call a lot of?



Mesh routes. Lol

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I never said ANYTHING over the middle is Mesh

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You pretty much did.

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How hard is it for a receiver to settle into a zone 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage right in front of the QB.


That’s a play called Mesh,

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I'm not sure that is mesh.


I’m 100% sure it is.

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Mesh is essentially a pick play.

Vs Man, Yes.

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LOL. It is designed as a pick play. That is what makes it a mesh. 2 receivers crossing each other. Technically, it doesn't have to be 2 slot receivers as your youtube illustrates (your youtube isn't wrong. but a 2 receiver set on the same side can mesh. It doesn't have to be over the middle. But it is a pick play and it does require 2 receiver crossing against one another).

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The plays where you saw 2 WRs stopping n standing in the holes between the backers are the plays I’m talking about and they ran it A LOT

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you are factually wrong. 2 players finding a spot in a zone is not a mesh. they have to cross each other. it is literally the only defining quality that constitutes the term "mesh". If 1 player runs a button hook and a a RB runs an angle route. that is not a mesh. I've continuously used the term hook and angle (or texas). Because at some point, you should snap out of your mesh mania and confirm that a mesh requires 2 receivers crossing eachother. Not "finding space" against zone.

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I don’t gaf what UGA ran. When you were in zone, that play got hit for yards to keep the chains moving,

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LOL. No. 2 receivers were not nearing the same vicinity. You miss the key element required for "mesh".

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That’s a play called Mesh, vs Zone they find a spot and settle, vs Man they keep running.

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LOL. it is a little bit funny that you think mesh doesn't require the 2 receivers to cross. Your literal definition of "mesh" is to "find space against zone".
I'm curious when you will admit that mesh requires 2 receivers to cross. How good is your google?

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I said it was called a lot.. it was. Look at the volume of passes thrown.

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Volume of passes thrown against zone coverage equals a mesh play? I don't want to put words in your mouth. But you are just about there.

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There isnt any skill for a 6 foot 5 target to stop at 5 yards and stare down the QB for the ball. And then turn and fall forward for 2 more yards.

Didnt say it was, but you just described Mesh vs Zone in a nutshell.

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Wrong again, Flanders. Button hook is the opposite of mesh. It is only mesh if there is a crossing of 2 receivers. They have to.... wait for it... 'mesh'.

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Comprehension is not your strong suit. I never said ANYTHING over the middle is Mesh

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See ^^^^^^

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How hard is it for a receiver to settle into a zone 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage right in front of the QB.
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That’s a play called Mesh, vs Zone they find a spot and settle, vs Man they keep running. I believe vs man was the TD pass they hit wher the WR climbs after they cross.

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Your comprehension skills in a nutshell

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Lmao, you took a comment I made 2 pages ago and tied it to your comment you just made lmao. Fake news

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I took a comment I made and you replied that it was a mesh. I argued that what I described wasnt a mesh.

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absolutely never said this. Again your comprehension needs work

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I continuously described button hooks and angle routes and you continuously interject "mesh".

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You never said how he got where he was going to settle, did you? No so I just assumed you meant after the mesh.

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Like I said,you have mesh mania.
Where have I once described a mesh play in this thread against zone coverage. Never. But you take button hooks and angle routes and presume that they have anything in my description to do with a mesh concept?

I dont like arguing semantics because different coaches call things differently. But you, sir, are a moron. Leach dialed up a gem. On the rare occasion that UGA was in man, we got burned once on a mesh concept and gave up another 3red down later in the game.
But UGA did not get burned or marched on in zone coverage by mesh routes. As a matter of fact, the one time I remember mesh against zone, the ILB knocked the receiver silly.


Coaches are smart. If something isnt working, they dont call it.
UGA got afraid to call man coverage.
Leach understood that mesh wasnt going to be productive with our ILB in zone

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Leach understood that mesh wasnt going to be productive with our ILB in zone

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ROFLMAO.. Please stop.
The whole point of Mesh is to isolate the Inside Backer and force him to choose between the 2 meshers as to which one he will take. Kinda a Monkey in the middle game as I explained it to my players.

You really need to read up if you’re gonna keep doing this with me. Start with either of these
The Perfect Pass
Swing Your Sword

And we’ll continue this convo

How hard is it for a receiver to settle into a zone 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage right in front of the QB.

How bout being more specific? There’s a difference in the QB choosing A WR to throw to after the cross and you saying ONE WR stops in front of the QB

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ONE WR

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That should be your clue.

Cant be a mesh with 1 WR.

Good afternoon.
Smell the coffee.

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Not my fault you can’t stay on topic

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My topic was never on mesh.

You replied to me.

Lol

How many times did Miss st run button hooks or angle routes against UGA?
How many times did they run mesh against zone coverage?

Why are you so desperate to talk about a play that was run and failed and pretty much never run again because the QB couldn't rely on the WRs to hit their spots with a quick release?