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re: Gary Danielson and Steve Shaw had words at halftime in media viewing area...

Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:35 am to
Posted by The LGBM
Member since Jul 2017
726 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:35 am to
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Yep. 1) We didn’t force moss out (obvious). 2) moss’s foot was out of bounds 3) moss reenters the field. Those three don’t add up to equal a catch. Now, your turn.



Your facts are correct. Then the Bama player tips the ball before the catch. Result: Correct ruling on the field and the replay.

Now your turn.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 11:38 am
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6270 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:37 am to
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He was forced out,


If you really believe this I don't know what to say.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
54915 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:38 am to
But they didn't.

I don't like the rule though.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2236 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:39 am to
Roll Tide. What? frick you!
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9564 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:40 am to
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Goldtide1


This guy! Remember, LSU didn't have a single advantage at any position, but Bama never had a lead.

I bet you said O will never beat Saban!
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 11:41 am
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:44 am to
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If you really believe this I don't know what to say.


Here's the thing. All the DB has to do is TOUCH the receiver. Diggs' hands are on Moss has he cuts. That's all that is needed.

Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5999 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:46 am to
Lol. Melt tard
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:47 am to
It was first and 10 at the 18

We were scoring anyway. God, Alabama fans are worse losers than anyone. It's unreal.

Posted by SwampManiac
Quito, Ecuador
Member since Jul 2013
1766 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:48 am to
Is a BAMA FAN seriously complaining about a call in the game??
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59301 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:55 am to
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The call changed the dynamic of the game. Was pivotal in LSU scoring 17 in final 4 minutes. It’s okay though because the title goes through us once again on dec. 28th.



That was first down. I'm fairly certain Burrow would have completed one of the next two passes he attempted given that he shoved it up your arse all game long.

I love that you guys are still melting.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:59 am to
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He was forced out,


If you really believe this I don't know what to say.



As long as the DB has his hand on his chest pushing while he is going out of bounds, they are going to call that every time. The issue is did he establish himself back on to the field prior to touching the ball.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59301 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:59 am to
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RolledTurd fans complaining about "questionable" ref calls AGAINST them is just so adorable!

I'll just leave these right here as a refresher for those oh-so-short and selective Gump memories...

Screenshots of Patrick Peterson's Interception

Jordan Jefferson Speared In The Chest





That non holding call, unlike this complaint which isn't even accurate, was actually the deciding play in that game.
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard 9-4
Member since Oct 2003
5505 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:07 pm to
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There’s nothing to agree with or disagree with.

Of course Alabama fans would be discussing the one high profile non-judgment call of the game. It’s actually funny and some don’t even realize it’s a psychological function of the melt.

How about let’s talk about judgment calls that could have gone either way? That’s more fun, to debate calls that truly could have been called differently.

This particular call could not have been called differently, on field or after review, as the SEC office has already explained. So I have no idea why it’s even being discussed.
This likely went right over their head so I posted it again.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
9564 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:22 pm to
Ok. Replay clearly shows that Moss was not forced out and that the Bama defender, Diggs, did not tip the ball.

The call on the field was that Moss was forced out of bounds and re-established himself in bounds before making the catch. That call was not reviewable. When they reviewed the play, the replay refs were only looking to see if the feet were in bounds when the catch was made.

It was a bad call on the field. It led to a touchdown.

Alabama had plenty of chances to get back into the game in the fourth quarter, but it did not stop LSU's offense even one time when it had to. That is the reason for the loss.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32597 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:32 pm to
Melt away

Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
5096 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:34 pm to
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1) We didn’t force moss out (obvious). 2) moss’s foot was out of bounds 3) moss reenters the field. Those three don’t add up to equal a catch. Now, your turn.
case 1. It was ruled on the field that Moss was pushed out. That’s not reviewable.

2. He definitely stepped out, but 3. re-established himself in bounds with two feet before touching the ball (only one foot was required).

Since it was ruled on the field that he was forced out, the only thing replay could overturn was if he didn’t re-establish himself. He did, call was confirmed.

However, had he stepped out on his own and re-established himself in the field of play, it would have been illegal touching if he touched the ball first. He didn’t. Diggs did. It was a legal touch either way.

Bottom line is, Diggs got MOSSED! The whole stadium got MOSSED!

Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Ok. Replay clearly shows that Moss was not forced out and that the Bama defender, Diggs, did not tip the ball.

The call on the field was that Moss was forced out of bounds and re-established himself in bounds before making the catch. That call was not reviewable. When they reviewed the play, the replay refs were only looking to see if the feet were in bounds when the catch was made.

It was a bad call on the field. It led to a touchdown.


Except you're wrong. Diggs had his hands all over Moss while he was turning around. The very rule specifies "touching" not pushing. And having both feet in bounds would be re-establishing himself otherwise it wouldn't have been a catch.

It was a hard call to make but when you break it all down they weren't wrong.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28425 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:40 pm to
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You want to make a case that it was a catch? Go right ahead. I’ll wait. lol



RTW? FY!

Oh and ROLL CLYDE!!!!!
Posted by ceretonia
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
753 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 12:40 pm to
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You missed this part. There was certainly contact. You can argue as to whether the contact was enough to “force him out” but that’s not reviewable

I didn’t miss that part. He said it wasn’t reviewable. This is false.

On a side note, I think you can still overturn that here despite his comment. Gene obviously didn’t know this rule or it’s context. However, it is clarified in AR 7.3.8 9-10. This clearly states this caveat you mention is added as a clarification to flagrant hits and fouls.

Force is defined as a tackle or push. A push is defined as open hand block.

I think it’s fairly easy to argue there was no contact when the player stepped out of bounds. However, what is indisputable is Diggs hitting the ball with his fingertips which makes him eligible. Not sure why the SEC didn’t officially go with that response.
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