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re: Further proof that SC MUSTARD BBQ is king.

Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Sooner1984
Boone's Farm, Texas
Member since Jan 2017
538 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:12 pm to
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I have driven the length and breadth of Texas and have eaten at every place Texans claim sell BBQ and I ain't found anywhere in the entire state that sold BBQ, gas station, restaurant or food truck...nary a place. Lots of places claiming to and lots of ignorant folks who ought to know better but don't are fooled but when you were raised eating actual BBQ you can tell the difference immediately...if it ain't pig and there aint a hickory tree involved it ain't BBQ.


Bro, you are a pig eater. Think about that for a second. Pig.

Pigs were brought here by Spaniard explorers and released into the bog holes and swamps of Florida and Carolina. People were starving to death and started eating pigs because that and chicken was the only thing to eat, ceptin' for squirrel and rabbit.

You people have more in common with modern-day Taiwan and Cambodian peoples. You eat the same meats as them and can't get beef because you are broke and have to eat from a squatting position with your fingers full of pulled pork and hydrilla slaw.

Texans and Mexicans, meanwhile, worked in tandem in the beef industry. They sent the herd through Oklahoma into Kansas, where they were slaughtered and dispersed to the elite in Chicago and NY. Not down to the lowland bog dwellers that were fine with pig and squirrel. (And remain so to this day, see pic below.)


A guy name Jimmy Mustard created a sauce from sock sweat and mustard crumbs. He left some in South Carolina on the side of the road by accident. A local dude, probably related to Porter Waggoner, tried some on a pig ear. He thought it tasted fine and this was the beginnings of Georgia-Carolina bbq.

For more bbq history please ask.

* the post was satirical with no intention to offend the offended parties.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2827 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:24 pm to
Didn’t read 8 pages of nonsense but: beef bbq > pork or chicken bbq. The end.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:27 pm to
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Yep. Smoked meats are good. It's a basic law of human existence.

There's good BBQ all over the country, it just looks a little different in some places. Even the midwest does BBQ well, it's just not as ubiquitous as in other parts of the country, so you have to be a little more diligent to find the good stuff. But it's there.

Anyone who refuses to eat good BBQ because "where I grew up BBQ meant exactly one kind of meat cooked exactly one way!" Is a self-sabotaging idiot. Enjoy missing out on some of the best foods on Earth. Y'all really showed us.


Eating Brisket is one thing, calling it BBQ is another. Brisket in SoCal is very good. It is not BBQ. Hebrew brisket is excellent when done right...it ain't BBQ. There are numerous ways to cook brisket that make it pretty good. There is only one way to cook a pork butt and make it good and that is slow smoking it with hickory...BBQ. There are variations of that theme...crock pot, slow roasting in the oven, electric smokers....many people might refer to one or more of those as BBQ...in fact MOST restaurants that serve pulled pork prepare it in an electric smoker. They call it BBQ. It is good, sometimes, but it ain't BBQ. Corned beef when done right is out of this world...its beef brisket normally...it ain't BBQ. Most smoked meats are very good when done right...but they are just that, smoked meat. They ain't BBQ. BBQ is a god sent marriage between a pig, a hickory tree and some variation of vinegar (mustard is vinegar based). I will bet there isn't 1 in a hundred restaurants in the US that sell smoked brisket which does not also offer actual BBQ, pork, in the menu. There are 5 places within 10 miles of me as I type this that sell BBQ, pork, and NO other meat at all. When you have a Greek Diner's menu you know you ain't the real deal....places that sell brisket have all manner of stuff on the menu....but plenty of BBQ joints in the south offer only one choice for meat and that is pig...smoked for many hours over hickory and paired with some variation of a vinegar based sauce. Thats BBQ. Anything else, no matter how delicious, is an imposter.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Bro, you are a pig eater. Think about that for a second. Pig.

Pigs were brought here by Spaniard explorers and released into the bog holes and swamps of Florida and Carolina. People were starving to death and started eating pigs because that and chicken was the only thing to eat, ceptin' for squirrel and rabbit.

You people have more in common with modern-day Taiwan and Cambodian peoples. You eat the same meats as them and can't get beef because you are broke and have to eat from a squatting position with your fingers full of pulled pork and hydrilla slaw.

Texans and Mexicans, meanwhile, worked in tandem in the beef industry. They sent the herd through Oklahoma into Kansas, where they were slaughtered and dispersed to the elite in Chicago and NY. Not down to the lowland bog dwellers that were fine with pig and squirrel. (And remain so to this day, see pic below.)


Hell I am proud to be counted amongst the folks on earth who will eat a pig. Being associated with ancient civilizations that pre-date european history by a common source of protein is not an insult, it is a compliment.

Pigs and cows were introduced in North America by the Spanish at exactly the same time. Pigs, doing what pigs do and with their superior sense of survival ran off immediately and began to reproduce and spread. Meanwhile the cow, dim witted and slow of foot, had to be coaxed along, babied, cared for, protected. A pig was as likely to make a meal of a wolf or a cat as become a meal himself...a cow was to slow both intellectually and physically to look out for its own self interest. It took YEARS for cattle to establish themselves and without a heap of looking after they'd be as helpless as chickens. Pigs not so much...they breed like fleas and will eat anything and its best not to frick with them too much less you wanna be the main course at an impromptu feast. Beef was a staple of the wealthy because cows are too damned stupid to raise themselves...they cost a bunch to grow where pigs left to their own devices will survive and thrive anywhere. If it hadn't been for pigs being so tasty and normal people who couldn't afford to eat a big dumb cow too stupid to raise itself pigs would have over run north America...they are about to do so in places as we speak...but folks learned how to cook them and kept them in check. Cows ain't natural...they all require too much attention to survive and thrive...pigs do just fine left to their own devices.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Didn’t read 8 pages of nonsense but: beef bbq > pork or chicken bbq. The end.


Ain't no such a thing as BBQ chicken or beef.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Didn’t read 8 pages of nonsense but: beef bbq > pork or chicken bbq. The end.


Folks have been eating pigs for far longer than they have cows. You can fence in a cow, take away its food and water and the damned thing will stand flat footed and stare stupidly off into space and die of starvation or dehydration. Do the same thing with a pig and as soon as your back is turned that bastard will run off, gorge on something, find his own water and a lady pig and get laid. ANY meal made of the former beast is going to fall short of ANY meal made of the latter...its just simple science.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2827 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:01 pm to
So your reasoning is an animal that can escape a fence better tastes better? Seems kinda faulty to me.

And doesn’t matter how long pork was being bbqed before beef, do you drive the same car you did in high school? Use the same phone? No, because we’ve developed newer and better ways to do stuff. Same thing with bbq, we found better and tastier things to cook. Beef > pork.

There’s a reason it’s “texas bbq” style restaurants popping up all over the country and even internationally, not Carolina or whatever style.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5515 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:42 pm to
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Do the same thing with a pig and as soon as your back is turned that bastard will run off, gorge on something, find his own water and a lady pig and get laid. ANY meal made of the former beast is going to fall short of ANY meal made of the latter...its just simple science.


Ok, Hannibal Lector
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5515 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Eating Brisket is one thing, calling it BBQ is another. Brisket in SoCal is very good. It is not BBQ. Hebrew brisket is excellent when done right...it ain't BBQ.


Thank you for telling everyone you have no idea what BBQ brisket actually is.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3732 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:53 pm to
Jesus Christ - it really is a slow time in sports, isn't it. Now we're arguing the proper definition of BBQ. What's next ? A virile and vigorous debate over if a hot dog is a proper sandwich ?

Sounds like a bunch of damn millennials in here. Making up some obscure topic to passionately debate, because they don't have the good sense to find any other way to pass the damn time.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:55 pm to
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You can fence in a cow, take away its food and water and the damned thing will stand flat footed and stare stupidly off into space and die of starvation or dehydration. Do the same thing with a pig and as soon as your back is turned that bastard will run off, gorge on something, find his own water and a lady pig and get laid.


Did you just describe the Texas and Arky fanbases unintentionally?
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5515 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Sounds like a bunch of damn millennials in here. Making up some obscure topic to passionately debate, because they don't have the good sense to find any other way to pass the damn time.



On the upside, once Augusta Dawg figures out that those Millenials have at least some semblance of intelligence, he'll get hungry and start thinning out the population.
Posted by ScoggDog
SE Indiana
Member since Aug 2020
3732 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:00 pm to
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On the upside, once Augusta Dawg figures out that those Millennials have at least some semblance of intelligence, he'll get hungry and start thinning out the population.


I don't care what sauce you put on 'em, or what wood you smoke 'em with, I'm not dining on Millennial.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:10 pm to
Back to mustard flavored skittles, my son, the constant practical joker said, "You could buy a bunch of those and mix them in with regular skittles...."
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11605 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:12 pm to
8 pages for a mustard flavored skittles thread
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37309 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:15 pm to
Sounds nasty but I’d taste one
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29249 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:33 pm to
The Coup de grâce would be a bbq sauce that incorporated mustard flavored skittles....
Posted by Gordy
Fayetteville
Member since Dec 2015
1935 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Beef fajita, some good ribeyes
While delicious these are definitely not BBQ. Just because you put it on your grill doesn't mean it counts.
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
1145 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:45 pm to
"There's room for all of the creatures on that grill."

Like the author said..."it is very important to not get too hung up on which style is best because frankly, all styles have something to offer....

...At the end of the day, it’s up to an individual’s tastes and preferences. There is no wrong way to cook or enjoy barbecue."

When I was eating at Glady's Knight's Waffles and Wings in Atlanta a few years ago...I asked an elderly black woman what she recommended....and she replied..."It's all good." Same here.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Ok, Hannibal Lector


BBQ is really good with a nice chianti and some fava beans....
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