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re: Fun fact: Orgeron becomes 6th active coach to win NC. Half of them won 1 at LSU
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:16 am to John Milner
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:16 am to John Milner
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The implication is that LSU made these coaches that produced these titles, and my contention is that Nick Saban built the program.
Why didn't Alabama win any titles with Dubose, Shula, or Franchione? Did he build the Alabama program too? Or is the coach only bigger than the program when it suits your argument?
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If LSU made Les Miles a national title winning coach, why did they fire him?
This is a really stupid argument
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:28 am
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am to magildachunks
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He was fired after the 99 season.
So I guess you could say Saban won with Dinardo's players.
It was Saban's 4th season.
It's like saying Saban won in 2009 because of Shula, rather than in spite of him because he recruited some of the players on the team.
The mental gymnastics LSU fans will do just to avoid admitting the obvious truth is highly entertaining. You aren't fooling anyone.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am to John Milner
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So why did they fire Dinardo?
He told you why in the same post. He made a poor DC hire after the 97 season and put his job on the line instead of firing him (Lou Tepper). There was a boatload of talent at LSU when Saban took over which is why he was able to go 8-4 in year 1 and win the SEC and Sugar Bowl in year 2. I take it you're really young given the questions you've been asking. That or you live in a really small bubble.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am to 3down10
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It's like saying Saban won in 2009 because of Shula, rather than in spite of him because he recruited some of the players on the team.
It's also like, you know, saying Les won with Saban's players.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:20 am to lsufball19
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Why didn't Alabama win any titles with Dubose, Shula, or Franchione? Did he build the Alabama program too? Or is the coach only bigger than the program when in suits your argument?
Because they weren't great coaches and were saddled with sanctions.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:22 am to lsufball19
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It's also like, you know, saying Les won with Saban's players.
Pretty sure Saban's influence on LSU after he left was felt in many more areas than the players on the field. The next Alabama coach will get that same benefit.
If any LSU fans had a real clue, they'd say it started with Emmert, who is the one who hired Saban and got LSU to open up it's wallet to pay for the things that's needed instead of being cheap asses.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:23 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:26 am to 3down10
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You guys are funny as frick.
What's funny is your ignorance you seem to relish
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:28 am to 3down10
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Because they weren't great coaches and were saddled with sanctions.
So does that make Les Miles a great coach? And Orgeron?
You're backing yourself into a corner here
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:29 am to lsufball19
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What's funny is your ignorance you seem to relish
Yes, I can't wait to see the 30-30 on how DiNardo built the LSU program.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:30 am to 3down10
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Pretty sure Saban's influence on LSU after he left was felt in many more areas than the players on the field.
So now it's Saban's influence. You need to stop man
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If any LSU fans had a real clue, they'd say it started with Emmert, who is the one who hired Saban and got LSU to open up it's wallet to pay for the things that's needed instead of being cheap asses.
You're right, we should listen to an Alabama fan tell us about our own program. I'm sure you're more knowledgeable.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:31 am to 3down10
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I can't wait to see the 30-30 on how DiNardo built the LSU program.
You can at least pretend to accurately depict what's been said. But if you want to continue to dig your heels in like a child, then by all means
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:31 am to lsufball19
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So does that make Les Miles a great coach? And Orgeron?
You're backing yourself into a corner here
If our measuring sticks are DuBose, Franfrickoff and Shula...ummm yeah.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:33 am to 3down10
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If our measuring sticks are DuBose, Franfrickoff and Shula...ummm yeah.
I'm just following your own arguing points buddy. You said they couldn't win at Alabama because they weren't great coaches, which implies it takes great coaches to win. Well, Miles and Orgeron both won national titles, so that would make both great coaches no?
OR, is LSU such a better program than Alabama that any idiot can win there?
Like I said, you're backing yourself into a corner.
I promise it doesn't make Saban a worse coach not to give him 100% of the credit for LSU's football program or to say LSU helped his own career immensely
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:38 am to lsufball19
Where did I ever call your coaches idiots?
You are just pulling shite out of your arse.
You are just pulling shite out of your arse.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:39 am to 3down10
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Where did I ever call your coaches idiots?
Didn't say you did, but it is, however, pretty clear you want to credit Saban with their success. I don't think you can even try to argue otherwise at this point with the hole you've dug for yourself
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:40 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:41 am to John Milner
And before LSU gave him the chance to be great, what was he doing?
Our last three coaches have won Natties at LSU. How about Gump U?
Our last three coaches have won Natties at LSU. How about Gump U?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:48 am to lsufball19
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Didn't say you did, but it is, however, pretty clear you want to credit Saban with their success. I don't think you can even try to argue otherwise at this point with the hole you've dug for yourself
Where did I credit Saban with their success?
All I said was Saban turned the LSU program around. You guys want to credit 6 win DiNardo with it because you'll do damn near anything to avoid giving Saban any credit.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:49 am to ibldprplgld
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Our last three coaches have won Natties at LSU. How about Gump U?
Won more than that in the last 10 years alone....
Hell, won more in the last 10 years than LSU has in it's entire history.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:52 am to 3down10
quote:You forgot Mike Price.
If our measuring sticks are DuBose, Franfrickoff and Shula...ummm yeah.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:57 am to 3down10
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you'll do damn near anything to avoid giving Saban any credit.
You're fricking delusional.
Nobody even brought that up in this thread till you did.
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